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Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:44 am**

poodling around wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:53 am
Steve wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:31 am
Inigo wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:20 am hmv 162 and 192 did have the saxophone horn?
That's why I tend to avoid cabinet machines unless they at least have saxophone horns or are re-entrant type like the 163 and 202. Otherwise you're just buying a table model with an inadequate (for most of us, presumably?) record cupboard underneath. At least with my Apollo Super 4 and Super 9 models I'm gaining something by having a cabinet machine. Its the same with my HMV 201 and Decca 72. I do have other cabinet models which just have a simple horn but they tend to be much earlier machines that were innovative in their day or stylish in some other way (before saxophone horns were invented) like the Bassanophone, Fixed Tone Arm Gramophone, HMV Style 12.....and HMV Junior Grand!

I think I have too many cabinet machines now anyway........11 in total.
Oh, there is another one here the same .............. but slightly different.

The 'feet' are amazing !

More importantly, how many cabinet machines do you have now - enquiring minds need to know ............

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/168207949563 ... R_Ccxu6XZw

The current number totals 14!

The ball and claw feet on this Paragon could be "off the shelf". This design was popular around the mid-20's to mid-30's and much furniture of the period can be found sat on identical feet. With that said, this cabinet has a rather squat, almost Bull Terrier, look about it!

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2026 11:03 am**

poodling around wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:37 pm
Steve wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:56 am I'd much rather have an HMV 192
I can't seem to find much information on HMV 192's - apart from them sometimes being painted black with elephants dotted around.

Why would you prefer one ? Better sound ?

: HMV 192.jpg (132.24 KiB) Viewed 36 times

There are quite a number of videos showcasing the HMV 192 -- https://www.google.com/search?lr=&sa=X& ... 01&dpr=1.4

Based on what I've found out, the larger HMV upright cabinet model gramophones of the 1925-1926/27 period--sold before the introduction of the Re-Entrant models--were fitted with tapered tone chambers nearly 6 feet long. (Even the humble HMV-101 portable--with its four foot tone chamber--pumps out far more than a hint of bass.)

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:32 pm**

I love mine! This link should result in a playlist: https://www.youtube.com/@burmesecolourn ... =HMV%20192

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:06 pm**

Many years ago it was suggested that HMV introduced the "saxophone" horns, which were not an HMV innovation, because they were reluctant to pay Victor for the rights to the Orthophonic horn.
In any event, they had a short life before HMV introduced the "Re-Entrant", their metal version of the Orthophonic horn.

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