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phonojim wrote:Bill,

I wasn't sure if the trim on the oak ones had the dark background like my mahogany C19. I wasn't aware that oak C19s are more rare than oak C250s. Do you have a source for this info, or is it based on your observations?

Jim

Hi Jim,

The C-250/C-19 has always been my favorite DD disc machine so I have been keeping track of them over the years when I run across them at shows, suctions, etc. My statement was made more on observation rather than saying it was on page xxx of a particular book although I do know that oak furniture was falling out of favor by the teens and was being replaced by darker woods such mahogany and walnut. I had a nice C-250 in oak at one time and have regretted moving it since. A mahogany C-19 eventually took its place, but i hope to run across another oak Chippendale at some point.

Bill

There has been a beautiful C250 or C19 in oak on craigslist Boise on and off for the last year or two. It looks stunning and it's on my way to Union. Jerry Blais

Jerry B. wrote:There has been a beautiful C250 or C19 in oak on craigslist Boise on and off for the last year or two. It looks stunning and it's on my way to Union. Jerry Blais

I've seen it, same pics on both Craigslist and Ebay. I actually spoke to the lady that owns it about two years ago, asked her to send some better pictures, still waiting.... I agree it looked nice though.

Concerning the background on the card-cut frieze---on the Fumed Oak machines,
that background was NOT stained black as it was on the others. I was surprised
at that detail when I found my Fumed Oak C-250.

hillndalefan wrote:Concerning the background on the card-cut frieze---on the Fumed Oak machines,
that background was NOT stained black as it was on the others. I was surprised
at that detail when I found my Fumed Oak C-250.

Hiya folks,

I realize this is a very old post, and perhaps the discussion has transcended into knowledge, but as I'm still trying to learn, can anyone confirm this statement as correct?

(I hope I haven't opened yet another can of worms full of conjecture)

Fran

He mostly sells radios, and has a really good reputation with that crowd. His radios nearly always do really well.

The OAK C-250s are much harder to find. The majority of them found are Mahoghany.

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Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

NEFaurora wrote:The OAK C-250s are much harder to find. The majority of them found are Mahoghany.

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Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

Once again, my friend Tony, what do you base your assumption on? Do you have incontrovertible data to back up your statement?

If you meant; "In regard to the Chippendale upright C250 and C19; mahogany cabinets appear to have been more common than the oak cabinets, according to my database in which I have examined more than 285 Chippendale C250 and C19 machines, AND IN FACT; it appears that mahogany cabinets outnumbered oak cabinets by nearly 2 to 1, AND I have the RECORDED DATA to back up such a statement.".

Then, and only then, would I have to agree.

BUT, this still DOES NOT answer the question I asked in my post:

fran604g wrote:

hillndalefan wrote:Concerning the background on the card-cut frieze---on the Fumed Oak machines,
that background was NOT stained black as it was on the others. I was surprised
at that detail when I found my Fumed Oak C-250.

Hiya folks,

I realize this is a very old post, and perhaps the discussion has transcended into knowledge, but as I'm still trying to learn, can anyone confirm this statement as correct?

(I hope I haven't opened yet another can of worms full of conjecture)

Fran

Best,
Fran )

Fran,

My observation has been that the "tooled" area (I'll bet there's a proper woodworking term) in the frieze of the Chippendales (C-250 & C-19) was not treated any differently than the rest of the cabinet. The "tooled" or roughened surface took the stain more readily than the smooth, sanded surfaces, and thus appears to be darker. This same effect is seen on open grain, and/or scratched/blemished wood when a stain is applied.

I could be wrong, but that's my belief based solely on my examinations of these machines.

George P.

phonogfp wrote:Fran,

My observation has been that the "tooled" area (I'll bet there's a proper woodworking term) in the frieze of the Chippendales (C-250 & C-19) was not treated any differently than the rest of the cabinet. The "tooled" or roughened surface took the stain more readily than the smooth, sanded surfaces, and thus appears to be darker. This same effect is seen on open grain, and/or scratched/blemished wood when a stain is applied.

I could be wrong, but that's my belief based solely on my examinations of these machines.

George P.

The "tooled" area of both mahogany cabinets that I have here are much darker looking than the same areas of the two oak cabinets I have (relative to their respective finish). With mahogany being a softer and much more porous wood than white oak, I think that makes sense.

I hope that we can find an Edison Chippendale cabinet with their version of fumed oak to examine. Maybe someone on the forum owns one and will post some pictures.

Best,
Fran