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To keep the kids out of course! Why else would the lid have a lock?Misetrgramophone wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:03 am Why did schoolhouse models need lids when they were external horn designs?
But, how would the horn even close?epigramophone wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:22 amTo keep the kids out of course! Why else would the lid have a lock?Misetrgramophone wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:03 am Why did schoolhouse models need lids when they were external horn designs?
Nice, it looks like a disc version of the opera phonograph
This machine has no relation to the Edison Opera, the Victor Talking Machine Company was a separate entity that was incorporated in 1901. They produced disc phonographs from the start, the Edison Phonograph Division did not produce discs until 1912 and the Victor Schoolhouse was introduced in spring of 1913.Misetrgramophone wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:59 pmNice, it looks like a disc version of the opera phonograph
I know it isn’t related, I just feel like the Victor schoolhouse horn was definitely a copy of the opera horn.Liamhamb30 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:40 amThis machine has no relation to the Edison Opera, the Victor Talking Machine Company was a separate entity that was incorporated in 1901. They produced disc phonographs from the start, the Edison Phonograph Division did not produce discs until 1912 and the Victor Schoolhouse was introduced in spring of 1913.Misetrgramophone wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:59 pmNice, it looks like a disc version of the opera phonograph
Misetrgramophone wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:56 amI know it isn’t related, I just feel like the Victor schoolhouse horn was definitely a copy of the opera horn.Liamhamb30 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:40 amThis machine has no relation to the Edison Opera, the Victor Talking Machine Company was a separate entity that was incorporated in 1901. They produced disc phonographs from the start, the Edison Phonograph Division did not produce discs until 1912 and the Victor Schoolhouse was introduced in spring of 1913.Misetrgramophone wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:59 pm
Nice, it looks like a disc version of the opera phonographLiamhamb30 is "spot on." (Love those British expressions!)Liamhamb30 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:12 pm The smooth style wood horns on Victor machines far predate the Opera. That's explicitly stated in informative books such as Look for the Dog and the Victor Data Book by Robert Baumbach. I suggest you read them, it'd benefit you greatly.
The horn installed on the Edison Opera Phonograph was a cygnet style horn, while Victor's horn was more of a modification to the flower horn, or Morning Glory style horn. As noted, Victor offered wooden horns (for their more deluxe models) prior to the time Edison put the Opera model on the market in 1911.
The "Schoolhouse" Victrola ( http://www.victor-victrola.com/XXV.htm ), itself, was introduced in 1913 as an "open sided" cabinet model--albeit equipped with a detachable outside horn. It differed greatly from the elegantly styled Edison Opera, which was a table top phonograph--as a Google Image search comparing the two shows.
In competition with the Schoolhouse Victrola, Edison offered a schoolhouse cylinder playing phonograph described & illustrated here--
https://victrolagramophones.proboards.c ... phonograph
--which was far more utilitarian, and frankly more practical than the VTM's design, since it could be wheeled from classroom to classroom, and allowed for the storage of records.
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