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Andersun,

I have number S102 and it is identical, case and all, except my carriage has the 4 screw reproducer clamps.

Chuck

martinola wrote: Is the taller comparison case #13852?

martinola:
Yes, that is 13852.


To all:

Thanks for your comments!

Steve

Nice to see another Edison cylinder machine on here!

Paul

martinola wrote: Hey Starkton, is there any chance you have photos or notes on #43 that you could share?

Below are a few snapshots.

ChuckA wrote: I have number S102 and it is identical, case and all, except my carriage has the 4 screw reproducer clamps.

I overlooked that detail. Is it significant for very low serial numbers? # 43 also has the 4 screw clamps (and an early earphone connector). Btw, I know that the reproducer is wrongly mounted (shifted by 180 degrees).

Starkton wrote:
I overlooked that detail. Is it significant for very low serial numbers? # 43 also has the 4 screw clamps (and an early earphone connector).

Like other characteristics, the single-screw speaker clamp appears off and on in early Standards and Homes. I have a Home shipped in February 1898 (just about the time the Standard was introduced in the U.S.) that has the single-screw clamps. I almost wonder if the EPW was running short on screws!

George P.

Scott Corbett has S3 from the late Elmer Jones collection. Has anyone on tbe board ever examined it in regards to the variations we're discussing? Don't think one could get much earlier than that example!

martinola wrote: I'd imagine that early complaints of pinched fingers, ruined hankies and neckties brought about the gear guard. The last guardless one I've got on my list belonged to phonolair (# 4918). The only exception I've noted so far is #283. I have a note about it having had a gear guard at one time.

Martinola - do you currently own #283? I sold that one about a year ago and I don't remember it having any indications of having a gear cover. Tinfoil also owned this machine in the distant past - maybe he can elucidate?

Hey MT!
No, I don't own 283, (but I wish I did). Tinfoil mentioned on Moo's board that it had one.

http://victrolagramophones.proboards.co ... 116&page=2

Unless that little light speck in front of the mandrel gear is the screw hole, I really don't see any other evidence of one in your photo. 283 has the number punched on the straight edge which I only usually see on the 4 clip machines, yet there it is.

Starkton, thanks so much for posting #43's photos. Do you know if the reproducer is a Standard speaker or an Automatic? Are you able to say which collection it's in? (And location if possible).

John, I'll have to get off of my duff and contact Scott about #3. It's only a 20 minute drive to his place from mine, so I really should see if he'd be willing to show it to me.

Thanks for the info everybody!

Martin

martinola wrote: Starkton, thanks so much for posting #43's photos. Do you know if the reproducer is a Standard speaker or an Automatic? Are you able to say which collection it's in? (And location if possible).

# 43 is located in Munich, collection of Deutsches Museum. The reproducer is a Standard speaker, see below:



Do you know who owns # 4 which is pictured in George Frow's book?

Here is one more to add to our knowledge. I can confirm what George has shared earlier about intermingling of gear cover, non-gear cover machines. This one is serial number 2417. It has all of the same characteristics of the earliest machine - no gear cover, smaller, detailed case, etc.

This one came with the early model C - the one without any marking on the tail weight. It has beautiful original finish and nearly complete pen striping

The best thing about this one is it will be at the NJ show this weekend FOR SALE!!!!! - Along with a bunch of other cool stuff

Shawn [email protected]