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Re: Is this real or fake

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:20 am
by Inigo
For any reason that link doesn't work, but searching on that blog I've found it there... The link doesn't work. But you go to the head of the blog and look down and eventually find the Pathé Jour et Nuit

Re: Is this real or fake

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:50 am
by gramophone-georg
Jour et nuit! :D

Re: Is this real or fake

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:50 am
by gramophone-georg
"Is this real or fake"
I'd say it's a real fake.

Re: Is this real or fake

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:20 am
by edisonplayer
Someone stuck an outside horn on a VV-VI!It smells of Frankenphone!As the old saying goes,"There's a sucker born every minute!"edisonplayer.

Re: Is this real or fake

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:25 pm
by EarlH
Tom Fretty sold machines like that back in the 1970's and into the 80's and it seems he had the back brackets made down in Mexico, but I don't really remember for sure anymore. He made quite a few of them and nailed the doors shut in front of the horn. It's hard to say if he made this one of course, but he sure sold a lot of them. I saw once next to a Victor IV that was original and he had at a flea market with $600 tag on both of them. This was probably about 1980. Some woman asked me what I thought about it. I knew Tom really well and bought a lot of records from him and I just said that I would buy the red one if I really wanted a machine like that. She said the other one matched the oak in her house and she didn't have any red oak in her house. I walked by about an hour later and the oak one was gone! It seems like he usually put a small black flower horn on his and maybe someone was making those back then as well. Tom sure sold a lot of stuff back in those days.

Re: Is this real or fake

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:31 pm
by Watanabehi
Inigo wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:20 am For any reason that link doesn't work, but searching on that blog I've found it there... The link doesn't work. But you go to the head of the blog and look down and eventually find the Pathé Jour et Nuit
What a strange combination! And It looks ugly and bad taste.

Re: Is this real or fake

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:32 pm
by JerryVan
EarlH wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:25 pm Tom Fretty sold machines like that back in the 1970's and into the 80's and it seems he had the back brackets made down in Mexico, but I don't really remember for sure anymore. He made quite a few of them and nailed the doors shut in front of the horn. It's hard to say if he made this one of course, but he sure sold a lot of them. I saw once next to a Victor IV that was original and he had at a flea market with $600 tag on both of them. This was probably about 1980. Some woman asked me what I thought about it. I knew Tom really well and bought a lot of records from him and I just said that I would buy the red one if I really wanted a machine like that. She said the other one matched the oak in her house and she didn't have any red oak in her house. I walked by about an hour later and the oak one was gone! It seems like he usually put a small black flower horn on his and maybe someone was making those back then as well. Tom sure sold a lot of stuff back in those days.
That type of thing was also done regularly in more recent years. It's unfortunate.

Re: Is this real or fake

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:29 pm
by DanP58
Well it sold, and for $700