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Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:34 pm
by Edisonfan
Jerry B. wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:08 am
I have a complete Fireside motor available if that's any help. PM if interested.
Jerry B.
Thank you Jerry, but I don’t need a whole motor. It’s a spring that connects the speed regulator arm to the underside part that holds the Governor and the speed screw in place.
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:13 pm
by VanEpsFan1914
Going to an old-fashioned hardware store and getting an extension spring the right length would be a good way to replace the missing spring, just saying.
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:30 pm
by Edisonfan
VanEpsFan1914 wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:13 pm
Going to an old-fashioned hardware store and getting an extension spring the right length would be a good way to replace the missing spring, just saying.
Unfortunately all the ones in my area closed up shop years ago. We just have Lowe’s and Home Depot.
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:24 pm
by Edisonfan
I found a spring that I needed. George Vollema at Great Lakes Phonographs.
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:05 am
by Inigo
The original seems stronger and thicker than the one in a click clack ballpen, if not, that's a good source for small springs...
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:47 pm
by Edisonfan
Bad news! The motor on my fireside is not working. I wound it up, and nothing, is moving.
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:05 pm
by gramophone-georg
Brake is on or the governor end bearings are too tight. If you try to move those end bearings with the spring wound BE CAREFUL. In fact I wouldn't unless you are fully aware of what can happen if it slips and the spring lets go. Maybe try a good oil soak on the moving parts first.
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:24 pm
by Edisonfan
gramophone-georg wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:05 pm
Brake is on or the governor end bearings are too tight. If you try to move those end bearings with the spring wound BE CAREFUL. In fact I wouldn't unless you are fully aware of what can happen if it slips and the spring lets go. Maybe try a good oil soak on the moving parts first.
Okay George,
I’ll give it a shot with oil.
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:54 pm
by Edisonfan
I removed the Governor and now the motor is running. Albeit very slowly. Also, I need to replace the belt. I did oil the gears, and use some WD-40. The motor is running slow, but there is movement.
Re: Edison Fireside need help?
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:11 pm
by FellowCollector
Paul, If you removed the governor with the main spring under tension (yikes!) and the motor runs slowly then something is definitely wrong.
Please post a video (if possible) so we can see what you see. : )
Doug