My First Opera

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Re: My First Opera

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That's nice! The grease and dust probably protected it. Love the styling on this model--I wouldn't do a thing to it other than mechanical servicing.

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Re: My First Opera

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ChuckA,

You mention "the mandrel of course has lost it's oxidized finish due to the plaster inner core of the blue amberols played". Your Opera's mandrel may not have had a copper and black, oxidized finish to begin with. After looking at your pictures, it looks to me like your Opera's mandrel has a pretty nice and original "gunmetal" finish. Here's a pic of one of mine (the gunmetal finish on my Opera's mandrel is actual darker grey than in the photo), and a pic of a page from an Edison machine catalog discussing the use of a gunmetal finish on some Operas (see page 11 --- "Finish"). You've got a machine to be very proud of!!!
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Re: My First Opera

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Absolutely stunning! Congratulations!

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Re: My First Opera

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Pathé Logical wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:56 pm ChuckA,

You mention "the mandrel of course has lost it's oxidized finish due to the plaster inner core of the blue amberols played". Your Opera's mandrel may not have had a copper and black, oxidized finish to begin with. After looking at your pictures, it looks to me like your Opera's mandrel has a pretty nice and original "gunmetal" finish. Here's a pic of one of mine (the gunmetal finish on my Opera's mandrel is actual darker grey than in the photo), and a pic of a page from an Edison machine catalog discussing the use of a gunmetal finish on some Operas (see page 11 --- "Finish"). You've got a machine to be very proud of!!!

Looking at the mandrel closer, I'm sure you're right. I don't see any remnants of oxidized finish on the mandrel anywhere. I always thought only the gun metal finished oak units had that mandrel finish, the mahogany ones all had the metal parts oxidized.

Your Opera is in fantastic condition also.

Chuck

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Re: My First Opera

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Chuck,

Glad to be the bearer of good news for you! When I first obtained that Opera, I thought the finish on the mandrel was wrong. But after perusing the internet for other Operas with a gunmetal mandrel (and finding several examples), and finding the catalog page I posted here, I was relieved.

Bob

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Re: My First Opera

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Congrats! I have collected 3 from around the country, over the past couple of years. They are a nice piece of engineering.

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