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Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:26 pm
by Henry
Uncle Vanya wrote:
No, Henry
Look For The Dog (the book which for two editions maIntained that there was only one version of the Consolette cabinet offered) is not correct in this case. I've owned eleven 8-12 machines over the years, four of which were veneered in mahogany. All of these mahogany machines had a pronounced stripe, and sported the very dark, glossy finish common to the cheaper machines made for the 1928 season (square-legged Consolette, 4-20, and mahogany 4-40). All of my mahogany machines were quite late, by the way. The walnut machines that I've owned were most commonly finished in a dull, dark Antique Italian Walnut finish, much like the leather door 8-30 machines, although I have owned one with an original glossy light French Walnut finish, which was really exceptionally attractive.
Well, there you are, gang: actual evidence! (As opposed to book-larnin'.) "Ask the man who owns one" was the slogan of [which?] automobile. I stand corrected; now somebody has to tell Baumbach
I contributed to the misinformation because the one 8-12 example I ever saw was walnut, without a doubt. Write down 100 times: don't extrapolate from one example. Thanks, Uncle V.
As for Microtrol's 8-12, it looks just terrific, as I knew it would. Microtrol, would you mind taking us through the refinishing process that you performed? I'm sure many would be interested.
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:20 pm
by chem_jv
“Ask the man who owns one” was Packard’s slogan. One of my three favorite cars makes. The other two also start with ‘P’.
I have an early 8-12 model that is Walnut finish. I am in the process of restoring it. It spent the last 40 years in a barn, out in rural Missouri. While it did have pot metal deterioration, the reproducer was one of the best and nicest sounding I have. No swelling at on that part. The tone arm support was another story.
I noticed this machine looks to be missing its tone arm support pin. As far as the reproducer, that does not look like a victor orthophonic. It looks like an aftermarket silvertone reproducer; I do know that sears sold them to fit the orthophonic tone arm as well as some other machines.
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:55 pm
by Henry
chem_jv wrote:“Ask the man who owns one” was Packard’s slogan. One of my three favorite cars makes. The other two also start with ‘P’.
Um, don't tell me, let me guess: Prius! Oops, sorry, not a make but a marque. (Best car I've ever owned, MY 2002.) OK, how about---Peugeot! Gotta hand it to them Frenchies. What a car! Or is that "What, a car?" Then there's always Pontiac, but you can't mean that one! Oh, no-o-o-h
Is that a No. 4A Speed Kodak as your avatar? Looks like the one in McKeown, p. 46.
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:00 pm
by alang
Henry wrote:chem_jv wrote:“Ask the man who owns one” was Packard’s slogan. One of my three favorite cars makes. The other two also start with ‘P’.
Um, don't tell me, let me guess: Prius! Oops, sorry, not a make but a marque. (Best car I've ever owned, MY 2002.) OK, how about---Peugot! Gotta hand it to them Frenchies. What a car! Or is that "What, a car?" Then there's always Pontiac, but you can't mean that one! Oh, no-o-o-h
Well I could think of Porsche, but no clue about the other.
Andreas
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:05 pm
by Henry
alang wrote:
Well I could think of Porsche, but no clue about the other.
Andreas
Oh sure, silly me! I was thinking Peterbuilt.
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:11 pm
by JohnM
From 1901 until 1938, my dad's dad was the metallurgist for the George N. Pierce Company/Pierce-Arrow Motor Car Company manufacturers of the Pierce-Arrow. Then he went to Republic Steel for a few years before he died in 1947.
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:18 pm
by Henry
Shame on me, I forgot all about that one, but the Pierce-Arrow was sure one classy vehicle.
Speaking of Peugeot, those Citroëns back in the '50s-'60s always remind me of roaches, for some reason. Bug-eyed; definitely insectoidal.
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:36 pm
by chem_jv
In old car circles the 3 P’s refers to: Packard, Peerless, and Pierce-Arrow . Although arguably peerless was very much in decline and quality suffered in the late 20’s. I hope to someday own a car by these wonderful makes. I do own a car with a ‘P’ in the name. I have a 1971 Ford Pinto (stock, original, and unrestored). You may all laugh now…
The camera is a cartridge loading Kodak Premoette Jr No.1. Produce between 1913 and 1923. It uses film pack 520 which is basically cut sheet film (6x9cm) the same size as 120 film. I also have the slightly larger Premoette Jr 1A in my collection of photography equipment.
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:10 pm
by Microtrol
Henry,
I photographed the process from start to finish and posted on my photobucket site. Here is the link for those interested. By the way, I'm still looking for a single knob that I'm missing on the unit and if any one has one laying around, let me know what you want for it. Thanks
http://s1179.photobucket.com/albums/x38 ... VV%208-12/
Re: VV-8-12 with some kind of paint?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:39 pm
by gregbogantz
Chem, I think the Pinto is a much-maligned car. My brother turned me on to them after he owned a couple. The price was right, so I bought a used Pinto station wagon with the German 2.3 litre 4-banger and German 4-speed stick transmixer. The trans was quick and smooth, and the weight distribution was just about ideal. Which made it a great handling and peppy little car as well as a practical hauler. I finally had to sell it when the floor and doors rotted out after 10 years of Indiana winter road salt. Hated to part with it. By then, they didn't make them anymore.