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Re: how much would a wrecked opera cost?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:21 am
by kirtley2012
shane
i just got excited!!
here is a pic
Alex
Re: how much would a wrecked opera cost?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:40 am
by gramophoneshane
Hmm, I dont think it's an Idelia case either. It's close, but I'm not sure what it is.
Maybeyou should start a new thread in the general section and post the pic. Someone will know what it is for sure.

- Edison Ideal/Idelia case
- edison Idelia front.jpg (66.27 KiB) Viewed 1076 times

- Edison Concert/Opera case
- edison_opera.jpg (21.52 KiB) Viewed 1073 times
Re: how much would a wrecked opera cost?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:54 am
by kirtley2012
from what i can see the corner colums are missing but on the winding hole (one of the few metal parts left on the case) it has the what looks like same oxidisation as a idella but i dont know if a opera also had this (it is hard to take a clear picture, unfortunately the carrying handles are missing which would have gave a clear indication if it was a idella or not
Re: how much would a wrecked opera cost?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:19 am
by gramophoneshane
Well it appears to have had the same handles as an Idelia, but the moulding around the bottom of the case is different.
A friend of mine has the earlier IDEAL, which was only made for 2 months before the name was changed to Idelia, but I cant remember if the bottom moulding was the same on both machines or not. I'm fairly certain it is.
If your moulding is original to the case, you may have some early rare cabinet variation.
Re: how much would a wrecked opera cost?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:22 pm
by kirtley2012
well i am pretty sure it isnt a opera now, if this is a idella or ideal or possibly a alva what do you think the case would be worth? i am probably not going to sell it but i might if it is worth something
i will start a new thread trying to identify it
Alex
Re: how much would a wrecked opera cost?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 8:55 pm
by USlakeside
If you have a small budget to begin with, completing an Idelia isn't going to happen. However, if you have the case, and can verify it, then you could sell it and get yourself some.base capital to buy a fairly complete phonograph. Don't quote me, but if that were an Idealia case, its worth at least 1k usd I would bet. Maybe more. I don't want to get your hopes up, so wait for expert opinions. Anything on the underside?
Re: how much would a wrecked opera cost?
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:08 am
by kirtley2012
ooh! i hope it is! that will be more money i have ever owned!
there is nothing on the base, just the wooden base board
Alex