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That's a neat machine, Brandon, and great to see it with all its original albums intact.

Would I be right to say the 8-35 is smaller than the Credenza but has a wooden horn, whereas the 8-36 is the same machine but with a metal horn similar to the HMV re-entrant series?

Steve wrote:That's a neat machine, Brandon, and great to see it with all its original albums intact.

Would I be right to say the 8-35 is smaller than the Credenza but has a wooden horn, whereas the 8-36 is the same machine but with a metal horn similar to the HMV re-entrant series?

I think it's actually wider but shorter than a credenza. The 8-36 was basically the same as the 8-35, but had a bit different case and was made for export. Both have a metal re-entrant horn.

In that case, a straight sound comparison between the 8-30 and the 8-35 would be very interesting. Has anyone tried it?

Some really great machines folks. As Brad said earlier in this post, my favorite is usually my next one. I too have slowed a bit as far as adding more machines, I'm out of room, but this Edison C-2 was too nice to pass up. It turned up near the town my daughter lives in, and she just picked it up for me about 2 hours ago. She'll take it to the gentleman who has done electrical restoration for me, so I hope by the time I get there for a visit, it'll be all fixed up.

Steve

Wow Steve!

That's one helluva find!

Congrats!

Sean

Steve wrote:In that case, a straight sound comparison between the 8-30 and the 8-35 would be very interesting. Has anyone tried it?

Of course. The Credenza has greater APPARENT bass, but this really is only an illusion, due to the greatly improved trebel response of the metal horn machine. The 8-35 will play (late) records which distort when played on a good Credenza with the same reproducer. I have both, and greatly prefer the 8-35. The Credenza is more flattering to imperfect (worn or damaged) electric records due to its poorer trebel response. It does tend to make acoustic discs sound a bit flat, though. A clean acoustic record is much more brilliant when played on the 8-35. Now the most interesting machine in the Orthophonic line up is the Revere (VV-14-1), a machine in a "wall type" cabinet with a folded wooden horn which is pointed directly at the floor. The length of the legs is such that the bass response is reenforced by bouncing off of the floor. In a room with a hard floor and decent acoustics the effect is stunning. Dance and orchestral records the effect is stunning. Vocals sound a bit odd, as the voice does not have an immediately apparent point source.

Note that the wooden-horned Orthophonic Victrolas were introduced a bit before the improved HMV instruments with the No.4 reproducers, just as the metal horned 8-35 series was introduced some time before the first Re-Entrant machines were designed.

I would say six of them! I simply can't decide: Vic VI with 24B horn, Vic V with speartip horn and serpentine & clawfoot oak cabinet, brown mahogany VV-XVIII, 8-35 with albums, 8-30X with tooled leather panels, Radiola 47 (for best sound).

beaumonde wrote:I would say six of them! I simply can't decide: Vic VI with 24B horn, Vic V with speartip horn and serpentine & clawfoot oak cabinet, brown mahogany VV-XVIII, 8-35 with albums, 8-30X with tooled leather panels, Radiola 47 (for best sound).

You forgot the 120...

As several have said, probably the next unexpected treasure I happen across.

But of what I have now, probably the one that I would keep if forced to reluctantly narrow the collection down to one is my Edison A250 Diamond Disk. I am fond of the way its looks and sounds and they are mechanically and historically interesting.

Clay

i do like DD machies! shame they are not very common in the uk

i like the edison C-2 also! if one came up for sale, i would buy it! very nice

keep em coming!