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Well, that nonsense certainly puts me off from uploading any records to YouTube. I have no time, money or inclination to endure fending off parasitic lawyers or other online vermin in the peanut gallery. Sharing should be a joy, not a drudgery. A pity, I have a huge collection of rare recordings that are not found anywhere on the Internet.

Yep, that's the conclusion I came to. I have better things to do that file dispute claims against parasitic companies trying it on. I guess it must be worth their while otherwise they wouldn't bother, but honestly - 100 year old recordings!!!

Valecnik wrote: I have a good idea who it was, but that's another story...

It's also quite ridiculous that, (as far as I know)there's no way to see who disliked your videos or to remove those dislikes either. I bet your "good idea who it was" is right btw. [/quote]



I think I can guess as well...but not until I looked at your recent videos.....

BTW - I once got click happy and accidentally clicked dislike instead of like and discovered that you can't undo that even as the person who did it!

Swing Band Heaven wrote:
I think I can guess as well...but not until I looked at your recent videos.....

Actually, it happened a few months ago, and I hadn't uploaded any videos for some time. I recieved a couple PMs from other members today saying the same thing happened to them.

Sorry about the link: I wanted to take a screen cap, but was apparently unable.

The thing that really prompted this post was the name of the so-called 'copyright' holder:


"PUBLIC DOMAIN COMPOSITIONS"

How's that for bald-faced impudence?

Lucius1958 wrote:Sorry about the link: I wanted to take a screen cap, but was apparently unable.

The thing that really prompted this post was the name of the so-called 'copyright' holder:


"PUBLIC DOMAIN COMPOSITIONS"

How's that for bald-faced impudence?

So they just assert a copy right on on the off chance that nobody challenges and they can make money off the rights at a later point?

Swing Band Heaven wrote:
BTW - I once got click happy and accidentally clicked dislike instead of like and discovered that you can't undo that even as the person who did it!

I've done that too.

Valecnik wrote:

Lucius1958 wrote:Sorry about the link: I wanted to take a screen cap, but was apparently unable.

The thing that really prompted this post was the name of the so-called 'copyright' holder:


"PUBLIC DOMAIN COMPOSITIONS"

How's that for bald-faced impudence?

So they just assert a copy right on on the off chance that nobody challenges and they can make money off the rights at a later point?

But also can't they make money out of it through you tube by claiming royalities and taking a cut out of the revenue raised by the associated advertising that you tube displays on or adjacent to the video? I assume that is their motivation - only small amounts of money granted but if they spread themselves accross thousands of different videos I guess it adds up

Public Domain Compositions - now that takes some beating!! Clearly some scam outfit, but the likes of IODA I would of thought would be different but they are doing the same thing in the hope of extracting (or should I say EXTORTING) money.

These days if I want to share vintage music (for educational purposes) then I do so by using a web site suxh as Box where you can stream mp3's direct from the site itself or download the file to listen to later. That way I control it and have none of the issues that many are experiencing with the likes of you tube.

Looking more closely, I see PUBLIC DOMAIN COMPOSITIONS asserts claims on several of mine too!!!

"Pagliacci (Si può?... Si può? (Prologue))", musical composition administered by:
Public Domain Compositions Your dispute awaiting response by 08/20/12
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Your dispute awaiting response by 08/20/12
"I PAGLIACCI", musical composition administered by:
The Harry Fox Agency, Inc. (HFA) Your dispute awaiting response by 08/18/12
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Your dispute awaiting response by 08/18/12


"Marseille", musical composition administered by:
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Your dispute awaiting response by 08/18/12
UMPG Publishing Your dispute awaiting response by 08/18/12
"ECHOES OF FRANCE (LA MARSEILLAISE)", musical composition administered by:
The Harry Fox Agency, Inc. (HFA) Your dispute awaiting response by 08/18/12
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Your dispute awaiting response by 08/18/12
"754422558228_01_04;La Marseillaise", musical composition administered by:
GoDigital MG For a Third Party Claim released.
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Claim released.


"National Emblem", musical composition administered by:
Public Domain Compositions Your dispute awaiting response by 08/20/12
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Your dispute awaiting response by 08/20/12
"National Emblem", musical composition administered by:
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Claim released.


"Barcarolle (From The Tales Of Hoffman)", musical composition administered by:
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Your dispute awaiting response by 08/22/12
Sony ATV Publishing Your dispute awaiting response by 08/22/12
"Hoffmann meséi - Barcarola", musical composition administered by:
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Claim released.


"Semper Fidelis", musical composition administered by:
Public Domain Compositions Your dispute awaiting response by 08/17/12
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Your dispute awaiting response by 08/17/12
"SEMPER FIDELIS", musical composition administered by:
The Harry Fox Agency, Inc. (HFA) Your dispute awaiting response by 08/22/12
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Your dispute awaiting response by 08/22/12
"754422707022_01_18;Semper Fidelis", musical composition administered by:
GoDigital MG For a Third Party Claim released.
One or more music publishing rights collecting societies Claim released.

I have found two interesting articles on this problem, which seems to be indeed much wider spread that the public is aware of:

YouTube Copyfraud & Abuse of the Content ID System

and

YouTube's Content ID Disputes Are Judged by the Accuser


The term 'copyfraud' pins it down pretty good.