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Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:54 pm
by Curt A
Here are pics of the stereo camera setup that I made using two Canon Powershot 12 megapixel SD 780 IS cameras. I chose these, since I already had one and the second one cost $40 on eBay. These are great little cameras and the price has dropped for good used ones... The mount is made from a piece of aluminum angle that I got at Lowes and the protrusion on the bottom is a mount for my tripod.

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 12:30 am
by Player-Tone
We should probably specify if an image is parallel or cross-eye style to make it easy for browsing. Note that the reversed "cross-eye" stereo image pairs are much easier to free-view on a large screen; in my opinion it is the better format for this internet thread.

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:56 pm
by gregbogantz
The "cross-eye" method of viewing 3D photos is the only really practical way of viewing these relatively large photos. Which requires that the right and left eye pictures be reversed from the parallel viewing method. I have been taking 35mm 3D slides for over 30 years or so and I had become quite adept at viewing them "raw", that is without the aid of a stereoptican viewer. The disadvantage of this 3D parallel viewing technique is that only small pictures can be viewed by most observers. It is almost impossible to view the parallel arrangement if the pictures are larger than the interocular distance between your eyes, that is when the object in one picture is displaced from that same object in the other picture by greater than the distance between your eyes. To view these in parallel arrangement, it would require that your eyes splay outward from parallel orientation. This eye positioning is very unnatural and is almost impossible for most people to do, including me. But most people can accommodate the cross-eye orientation which can also accommodate much larger pictures. This is because your crossed eyes can be made to focus on objects which are much farther apart than the distance between your eyes.

When viewing the pictures reversed, that is viewing the intented right picture with the left eye, there is a sort of 3D image depth but it is reversed or inverted. That is, the near objects appear to be far. It is a bizarre and incorrect depth perception as the image appears to be displayed "inside out". This inverted perception yields a peculiar view where the image appears to be arranged in several layers of depth rather than in the smooth perception of depth that is naturel with the correct image displayed for each eye.

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 7:33 am
by FloridaClay
Sorry guys. It just does not work for me. All I get is a very blurry image and a headache. :?

Clay

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 4:46 pm
by Silvertone
I'm afraid that I don't have any luck with the cross-eyed approach. I can make the parallel images fuse nicely if they are small, like Greg indicated. In the case of the photos in this thread, I find that if I view the messages on my phone, they are easy to see in 3D (the parallel ones, at least).

Here is a 3D snapshot from Union a couple of years ago. I've included the anaglyphic version too, just to stir up some more controversy. :twisted:

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:08 pm
by Zwebie
Well, here is my first attempt!
Cheers, Bob S.
(I've added 2 more)

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:34 pm
by Player-Tone
This same 3D effect also works for video:
[youtubehd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBa-bCxsZDk[/youtubehd]
So who is going to be the first to make a 3D video of their phonograph? Then we can see it in 3D AND hear it at the same time! :D

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:37 pm
by Silvertone
So who is going to be the first to make a 3D video of their phonograph? Then we can see it in 3D AND hear it at the same time!
Here is a video I made two years ago at the CAPS show and sale in California. It's anaglyphic, so it doesn't meet your requirements exactly, but it has a lot of depth (and a lot of phonographs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woRkd7vIbDI

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:13 pm
by VintageTechnologies
Silvertone wrote:
So who is going to be the first to make a 3D video of their phonograph? Then we can see it in 3D AND hear it at the same time!
Here is a video I made two years ago at the CAPS show and sale in California. It's anaglyphic, so it doesn't meet your requirements exactly, but it has a lot of depth (and a lot of phonographs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woRkd7vIbDI
I would love to know what kind of camera(s) and software that you used to create that video.

My Fuji W3 stores pictures and videos in a proprietary .MPO format and I have not researched yet whether I could export the videos to an anaglyph in a more compatible video format.

Re: 3D Phonograph Image Gallery

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:04 pm
by Silvertone
I would love to know what kind of camera(s) and software that you used to create that video.
I used the Aiptek 3D camera for that video. It is one of the cheapest on the market, but takes fairly good videos (and stills). Its best feature is that it is probably the easiest to use. The videos can be directly uploaded to youtube without any conversion, and youtube will put them into anaglyphic or side-by-side format for you. Youtube has instructions posted.