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Thank you Stephan. This is very fascinating. All this info should be moved over to the Melba thread in the Euro section. Valuable information indeed.

Am I to assume correctly, that (at least in Germany) the green stained versions were offered first or were green and ebony offer simultaneously..??.

As previously discussed, the ebonized stands were made in Germany and shipped accordingly to other countries. Does this apply to the ebonized cases as well..??.

gramophone78 wrote: Am I to assume correctly, that (at least in Germany) the green stained versions were offered first or were green and ebony offer simultaneously..??.

As the design came from Germany and the machine was, very likely, first shown to the public at the Leipzig spring fair beginning on March 7, 1904, I can only guess that it was marketed in Germany first. Unfortunately, the first D.G.A.G. ad in Phonographische Zeitschrift listing that model is only from October 1904, and as I have no German machine catalogue from that period I can neither say exactly from when it was sold, nor if green and ebony were sold together at first. I only have the catalogue of August 1905, listing the No. 15b with olive green case.

The basis of surviving machines is so small that every new find could mean a revelation.

As previously discussed, the ebonized stands were made in Germany and shipped accordingly to other countries. Does this apply to the ebonized cases as well..??.

I think so.

By the way, in the catalogue of August 1905, the "de Luxe" stands, both in natural oak and ebonized, cost 125 Mark and were named "Piedestal No. II de Luxe." No olive green version was offered.

I love the list of royals (and da Pope) ... but they forgot: Duke of Ellington, Count of Basie, Earl of Hines, Sir Loin of Beef, Sir Osis of Liver, etc