Edison Diamond Disc Phono cabinet factory sticker survey

[phonogfp]

Edison used the serialized decals on a lot of other models.... Not just the C-19.. You will find them on other machine models as well.

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Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

Such as the William & Mary discussed in the second post of this thread?

George P.

[winsleydale]

Wow. This is probably one of the fastest-growing threads that I have ever encountered. Good show! I'm loving these theories.

[SydneyAde]

Hi Fran

I didn't read all the thread in great detail, so hope this is not redundant info

I have 2 x C19s in Mahogany, which I reported to you on some time ago.

Both have the cabinet stickers in approximately the same place as your initial pic, ie,
interior RHS adjacent to horn.

Serial # 99101 & 113761 and both have the sticker with #19 - 2430.

Cheers

Ade

[SydneyAde]

…and while I'm on a roll, not sure if you needed this..

2 x A100s
SM 31681 - Interior Sticker LHS - 18 - 890
SM 54822 - Interior Sticker RHS - 20 - 890

1 slightly mangled A 85 (made me cry when it arrived tied with rope
and had the lid nailed shut) - arrived from Scrubby Creek Queensland

SM 814 - no visible factory on sticker inside walls, or signs of one, only the
small Edison instructions sticker (also on the A100s) and the floor of the cabinet
has been replaced.

ade

[fran604g]

Thank you, SydneyAde, it's good to hear from you!

Your additions provide new information, I appreciate your time.

Best,
Fran

[fran604g]

Wow. This is probably one of the fastest-growing threads that I have ever encountered. Good show! I'm loving these theories.

It DID grow fast! I hope it continues.

Fran

[fran604g]

We now have two C 19s that are 336 serialized units apart, with cabinets that are 107 units apart.

It occurs to me that in the mid-late 1920s as Edison sales decreased, the number of contracts with cabinet suppliers probably diminished as well. If enough of these late "Factory No.19" labels can be found to comprise a reliable sample, a comparison between machine serial numbers and cabinet numbers may suggest that Factory No.19 was perhaps Edison's sole cabinet supplier toward the end. Of course, we don't yet know if the cabinet serialization was distinct between models, or if it represented the cumulative output for all models at Factory No.19. There's no model designation on the labels, so I suspect it's the latter. At this point I don't really know what to think...

Data! Data!

George P.

I agree, George.

I wonder, too, if the 1924 merging of the Edison companies would have compelled this serialization. Money was tighter than ever before, and I'm sure the directors would have wanted to watch inventories much closer than earlier years.

We...need...more...data!

Fran

[fran604g]

The "standings" as of this morning.

I've highlighted the labels in red that I've based this survey upon.

1) W&M SM-3915 Factory No. 19-15151 (Winsleydale)
2) C19 SM-172249 Factory No. 19-18754 Form 22330 (fran604g)
3) C19 SM-?????? Factory No.19-15978 (A Ford 1)
4) C19 SM-139485 Factory No.18-NO SN Form 2430 (De Soto Frank)
5) C250 SM-33187 Factory No.19-NO SN Form 890 (fran604g)
6) C19 SM-96451 Factory No.33-NO SN Form 2430 (fran604g)
7) C19 SM-75399 Factory No.2-NO SN Form 890 (fran604g)
8) A100 SM-100111 Factory No.2-NO SN Form 890 (fran604g)
9) C19 SM-172585 Factory No.19 SN-18861 (mikejk)
10) C19 SM-99101 Factory No. 19-NO SN Form 2430 (SydneyAde)
11) C19 SM-113761 Factory No. 19-NO SN Form 2430 (SydneyAde)
12) A100 SM-31681 Factory No. 18-NO SN Form 890 (SydneyAde)
13) A100 SM-54822 Factory No. 20-NO SN Form 890 (SydneyAde)
14) A85 SM-814 NO STICKER (SydneyAde)
15) B19 SM-8923 STICKER REMOVED (fran604g)

Best,
Fran

[fran604g]

Fran....This is the sticker on my W-19
William & Mary. My sticker is on the
left hand side as you look at the front.
Gene

Gene, I hope I didn't offend you yesterday, but because many others have submitted information that expands my original survey, I would urge you to post yours again, if you're willing to. I've elected to expand my survey, in the hopes that we can expose other manufacturing trends over the long-term.

Best,
Fran

[Edisone]

Didn't George Frow list the various "Factory Numbers" and their surmised locations? I'll hafta look for my book .... 33 might have been the Jamestown Mantel Company, 19 was New London, Wisconsin ...etc ... as I recall