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EarlH wrote:I would ask for more pictures and be specific. If he doesn't have the machine, he won't be able to provide more pictures. I'm with you though, I am too much of a skeptic on something like that.

I did sell an Edison to a guy over in Britain about 6-8 years ago now, and he claimed he never got it and paypal wasted NO time giving him every bit of the $450 and shipping. I used to sell records for a friend of mine using a different ebay account and he emailed me asking if I had any "Stephen Foster cylinders" so I told him I'd look, but he should send me a picture of the machine he was planning on playing them on. Of course I got a photo of the machine I'd sold him several months back. Paypal told me the 90 days was up and the picture proved nothing anyway. THAT was the last thing I sold overseas. So, can say that will refund the money quickly weather it's justified or not.

PayPal is 180 days now. Even if eBay and PayPal find for the buyer, today you can file fraud reports with IC3 and Interpol online. Often when you do this and report this to eBay/ PayPal they'll reverse their decision.

Be aware that since eBay and PayPal are now "separate companies", the buyer can lose on eBay and re- file with PayPal. PayPal has suddenly started closing cases in favor of sellers when the seller produces case evidence in a screenshot that eBay already found in their favor.

Incidentally, I run a small off eBay discussion forum of a group of top eBay sellers where we discuss eBay/ PayPal and all their pitfalls. One of our members is an ex eBay fraud prevention attorney. She doesn't regularly participate but sometimes when we reach out to her she'll respond. If any of you ever run into a real problem with a scammer feel free to reach out to me and I *may* be able to give you pointers that will get you out of your jam.

Since I´m in Spain I thought I might have a run over to have a look at the phonograph, but me being in Seville and the store in Murcia (I asked him) it´s too far (like 4 hrs one way) and I´m not interested for my own sake.

The box sure looks like it got sandpapered?

The man who responded in english over ebay messages seems to speak english very well. He´ll probably send pictures and more info if you want? Hope this helps.

Snal

Hello. I live in Sevilla, Spain. Why this machine is so valuable? Is there any way to make it works without a very expensive Bettini reproducer? Thanks.

It sold for $1426.00 plus $220.00 shipping. I hope that sale is legit.
Harvey Kravitz