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marcapra wrote:I read that the "shield" grille came later, in 1922, due to complaints about the Fleur-di-lis grille. I always liked the Fleur-di-lis grille and is the only Edison grille I've seen that is 3-D. But the shield grille is also very nice. The finish on this H-19 looks more like golden oak to me. Frow made a mistake in his Edison Disc Phonographs book. He says the metal parts are nickel plated, and I see that yours and my H-19's are gold plated.

fran604g wrote:

marcapra wrote:I read that the "shield" grille came later, in 1922, due to complaints about the Fleur-di-lis grille. I always liked the Fleur-di-lis grille and is the only Edison grille I've seen that is 3-D. But the shield grille is also very nice. The finish on this H-19 looks more like golden oak to me. Frow made a mistake in his Edison Disc Phonographs book. He says the metal parts are nickel plated, and I see that yours and my H-19's are gold plated.

Marc,

The packing slip Cliff has shown clearly states "Fumed Oak".

Best,
Fran

CDBPDX wrote: I have some oak Edison machines that range from very dark oak finish to very light oak finish and just about everything in between. How would one define 'Fumed', 'Golden', and 'Jacobean' finishes??

fran604g wrote:Thank you, Cliff! That's fabulous for reference. It looks exactly like the finish on a C 19 I have, and I've always suspected it was Fumed Oak, but never had the proof.

One more thing, if I can ask, is there a "Cabinet Factory No." tag inside the horn compartment, and if there is, could you give me the number, please?

Best,
Fran

CDBPDX wrote:

Victrolacollector wrote:What a find. The extras are nice. It’s interesting reading the letters, it gives insight into the history and mindset of the owners. Just think letters back then and now we have email and texting.

'Tis a pity that future historians will not have these insights into life when our times become the past since texts and emails won't be around.