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pallophotophone wrote:Well,

The Q I gave as a gift to a friend had that same degree of flutter. The only way it could be completely eliminated was to replace all 3 weights and springs from a parts carcass.

So the warble is Being caused by the governor?

AmberolaAndy wrote:

pallophotophone wrote:Well,

The Q I gave as a gift to a friend had that same degree of flutter. The only way it could be completely eliminated was to replace all 3 weights and springs from a parts carcass.

So the warble is Being caused by the governor?

Yes- either by out of balance weights or springs that are not of equal strength. Caused uneven rotation and subsequent flutter.
After giving this a little more thought- Your and my machines could have been like this since day 1. I've worked on and owned several Q's over the years and these 2 are the only ones I've ever found with this problem.

Replacing all 3 spring/weights cleared it up perfectly. And yes, you audio sounds just as bad as mine did beforehand.

Hope this is use full.

Bob

pallophotophone wrote:

AmberolaAndy wrote:

pallophotophone wrote:Well,

The Q I gave as a gift to a friend had that same degree of flutter. The only way it could be completely eliminated was to replace all 3 weights and springs from a parts carcass.

So the warble is Being caused by the governor?

Yes- either by out of balance weights or springs that are not of equal strength. Caused uneven rotation and subsequent flutter.
After giving this a little more thought- Your and my machines could have been like this since day 1. I've worked on and owned several Q's over the years and these 2 are the only ones I've ever found with this problem.

Replacing all 3 spring/weights cleared it up perfectly. And yes, you audio sounds just as bad as mine did beforehand.

Hope this is use full.

Bob

Yeah, I had a hunch that governor was going to be Problematic even when I first got it. I remember seeing Edisonfan’s video on his Nipper’s Lounge YouTube channel and he said he got his Q’s governor redone by George Veloma?

Unless you have a parts donor unit and can remove and reinstall the 6 very small fixing screws,then George Vollema (Great Lakes Antique Phonographs) would be perfect.
He probably has the right parts many times over. Ask for the old parts back- you can never know when they might come in handy.

One thing you might try before sending it off- Start the motor and approach the governor balls very, very carefully with a felt tipped marker. At one point, you should be able to touch the out of balance ball/ spring. The marker will leave a spot on that one assembly.

Good Luck With It !

B.

I have used George for both parts and servicing with great results.

If you are mechanical and want to try it yourself, use a small flat head screw driver to take the weights and springs off. If the weights are of the same size then contact Ron Sitko for replacement governor springs as one is longer or shorter than the others. If the weights are different size then replace them as well.

Best of Luck

Bruce

AmberolaAndy wrote:

fran604g wrote:Andy, have you added your Q to the questionnaire? If not, please do. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38225

Best,
Fran

I believe I had. On the first page.

You're correct, thank you Andy. I should've checked before I asked.