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Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome Parts
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:10 pm
by UpstateNYBilly
On a related topic...
The Jacobean-like model that I recently acquired that is missing the grill (if there indeed ever was one). It turns out the dimensions are EXACTLY the same as the grill on m Louis XV Deluxe (pic below) so if worse came to worse I could have it copied and put in place with it at least having a Sonora design as a representative alternative. When I can find a photo of my machine with the mystery grill showing I'll have a grill to work from for dimensions.
I am missing the toothed piece that helps to gauge the spring tension for the meter on the board of my XV. Any clue where I might go about finding it? I have a photo of a complete motor from another Sonora and the motor that is missing said piece.
Any help would be appreciated, as always.
best,
Bill
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:03 pm
by Curt A
That straight toothed piece seems like it would be relatively easy to duplicate, especially if you have that original for a pattern. If you don't have it, it would still be an easy piece to make. If you can take a high quality photo of that piece straight down from the top, you can probably make a template of the sliding part and the toothed part. I think finding one loose is a needle in a haystack search, but I might be wrong... Check with George Vollema and send him those pics...
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:21 pm
by JerryVan
A good start would be finding some rack gear stock. You can buy it as a catalog item, but would most likely have to cut the length you need and do other modifications, then make and attach the rack to the sliding portion. Knowing the correct gear pitch will be key. It's nearly certain to be a 14.5 degree pressure angle gear, just gotta know the pitch.
https://www.bostongear.com/products/ope ... /gear-rack
Another source...
https://www.mcmaster.com/gear-racks/met ... ure-angle/
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:30 pm
by UpstateNYBilly
Ha! I don't know the first thing about repairing phonographs. I'm strictly an aesthetic collector. Love to collect and love to play them. I can do a bit of work on cabinets... but I rely on the kindness of strangers for the repair work. I have no aptitude for that sort of thing! I've had a message out to George for another issue but have yet to hear from him in the past few weeks. I guess three might be a charm?
Thanks!
Bill
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:06 pm
by Lucius1958
UpstateNYBilly wrote:Ha! I don't know the first thing about repairing phonographs. I'm strictly an aesthetic collector. Love to collect and love to play them. I can do a bit of work on cabinets... but I rely on the kindness of strangers for the repair work. I have no aptitude for that sort of thing! I've had a message out to George for another issue but have yet to hear from him in the past few weeks. I guess three might be a charm?
Thanks!
Bill
Could you perhaps repost this in a more legible color?
- Bill
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:12 pm
by BillH_NJ
Is the motor on the Jacobean mounted on over the horn in the cabinet as on my Chippendale? I clearly don’t know the trick to getting it right, but I have yet to engage both the motor meter pin and the speed control when trying to drop the motorboard back in place.
Bill
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:57 pm
by UpstateNYBilly
No, Bill. The mounting block for the motor sits on the base of the cabinet and the horn curves around it to the left.
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:30 pm
by BillH_NJ
Yes, that’s what I meant. Sorry if it was unclear, but I was referring to the fact that the motor remains in the machine when the board with the speed control and brake is removed rather than being hung from it.
Bill
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:02 am
by UpstateNYBilly
Gotcha, Bill
Correct. But I've not tried to do that just yet. Motors are both out and being worked on. I guess I'll figure out that hookup when it's time to reassemble them. If you come up with any clues, let me know!
thanks
Bill
Re: Sonora Console - Oak Gothic Polychrome
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:35 pm
by Lucius1958
OT: this exchange reminds me of family reunions back in the day. My stepfather's name was Bill; he had a son named Bill, and a grandson named Bill.
If anyone shouted,
"Bill!", there was a resounding chorus of
"What?!"...
- Bill