Re: Victrola VV 8-9
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:34 pm
OK here goes: to start with I would not use Kotton Klenser it is simply a go to item and is not specific enough for this paint.
I would start with good old spit. Yes spit. For hundreds of years it was the go to for paint conservators and still works. Take a cue tip and roll it over your tongue,
the idea here is to pick up some of the moisture from your mouth-do not make it soaking wet. There is some acid along with that moisture from your mouth and that may be enough to do a pretty good job of cleaning. Do not drink coffee, coke, or smoke before doing this. Then lightly roll that cue tip over the paint so that it turns to you-DO NOT STROKE IT!
If the end of the cue tip changes color-but does not pick up the color from the machine than you are cleaning it. Do one panel at a time-you will not have enough spit to keep the process stable. Why not use the Kotten Klenser? I have 50 or so reagents for cleaning, oils, acrylics, tempera and other forms of paintings that I have developed over the years along with some of the formulas from some of my mentors, and I have cleaned poly-chrome frames before but they are always varnished and I work from that level of experience. I think this poly-chrome has been over coated with a glaze. which is what is changing over time and it impacts the color. After looking at the original owner and your pectus I see what I think is wood tone coming through, or is it just the top color changing?
Post a picture of your cue tip-it does take a bit to get the feel of the process-if you do not pick up any color or dirt let us know and we will look at what might work next. The idea here is to understand that I have cleaned an oil painting 4 or 5 times to get it really clean, and used different cleaners of different strengths, because if you start out with a strong chemical you might go to far and remove paint right out of the gate.
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I would start with good old spit. Yes spit. For hundreds of years it was the go to for paint conservators and still works. Take a cue tip and roll it over your tongue,
the idea here is to pick up some of the moisture from your mouth-do not make it soaking wet. There is some acid along with that moisture from your mouth and that may be enough to do a pretty good job of cleaning. Do not drink coffee, coke, or smoke before doing this. Then lightly roll that cue tip over the paint so that it turns to you-DO NOT STROKE IT!
If the end of the cue tip changes color-but does not pick up the color from the machine than you are cleaning it. Do one panel at a time-you will not have enough spit to keep the process stable. Why not use the Kotten Klenser? I have 50 or so reagents for cleaning, oils, acrylics, tempera and other forms of paintings that I have developed over the years along with some of the formulas from some of my mentors, and I have cleaned poly-chrome frames before but they are always varnished and I work from that level of experience. I think this poly-chrome has been over coated with a glaze. which is what is changing over time and it impacts the color. After looking at the original owner and your pectus I see what I think is wood tone coming through, or is it just the top color changing?
Post a picture of your cue tip-it does take a bit to get the feel of the process-if you do not pick up any color or dirt let us know and we will look at what might work next. The idea here is to understand that I have cleaned an oil painting 4 or 5 times to get it really clean, and used different cleaners of different strengths, because if you start out with a strong chemical you might go to far and remove paint right out of the gate.
Abe
Abe