Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 6:13 pm
So the table is an early Zonophone stand? Do people still believe £400 is expensive? An early Zonophone to put on it would cost you several times that sum.
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Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:07 pm
The Gramophone stand on Ebay is very real and rare. I believe they were sold in the UK, German and Italian markets. Counting mine, I know of only of two others with the one on Ebay. Here it is in a Italian catalog.
Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:25 pm
Thank you so much for the information! The Italian advertisement is not one I have seen before.gramophone78 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 2:07 pm The Gramophone stand on Ebay is very real and rare. I believe they were sold in the UK, German and Italian markets. Counting mine, I know of only of two others with the one on Ebay. Here it is in a Italian catalog. Oak Record Cabinet (2).JPGEleganti Tavolini (1).JPG
I wondered if it was a later type to the one shown in the Zonophone catalogue. I think the one shown in that catalogue must have been fairly obsolete by 1904 as presumably the top record box was for 7 inch records and is only shown there as an ad for the concert horn. Perhaps the reuse of an older illustration which appears quite common in old catalogues.
I note your stand has not been stripped and revarnished!
Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 3:09 pm
.......or painted gull grey!jamiegramo wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 2:25 pmThank you so much for the information! The Italian advertisement is not one I have seen before.gramophone78 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 2:07 pm The Gramophone stand on Ebay is very real and rare. I believe they were sold in the UK, German and Italian markets. Counting mine, I know of only of two others with the one on Ebay. Here it is in a Italian catalog. Oak Record Cabinet (2).JPGEleganti Tavolini (1).JPG
I wondered if it was a later type to the one shown in the Zonophone catalogue. I think the one shown in that catalogue must have been fairly obsolete by 1904 as presumably the top record box was for 7 inch records and is only shown there as an ad for the concert horn. Perhaps the reuse of an older illustration which appears quite common in old catalogues.
I note your stand has not been stripped and revarnished!
Why do they insist on doing that to everything now? I'm convinced todays shabby chic will be tomorrow's gloomy 1930s coffin brown!
Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 3:36 pm
Or that chalk paint that looks dirty within a short time!Steve wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 3:09 pm
.......or painted gull grey!
Why do they insist on doing that to everything now? I'm convinced todays shabby chic will be tomorrow's gloomy 1930s coffin brown!
Do you know if the Italian catalogue is for any particular manufacturer?
Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 6:01 pm
I do believe it probable this stand has to do with Zonophone. The catalog is from a Gramophone shop that was in Milan.jamiegramo wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 3:36 pm Do you know if the Italian catalogue is for any particular manufacturer?
If I remember right....there is "patent pending" branded into the back edge of the top. I forgot to mention the French market as well. Mine was found here in Canada and I assume came over from the UK many years ago.
It also fits a Victor 5 perfectly as if made for each other.
Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:16 pm
Definitively not a Zonophone or HMV product. If I recall correctly a small German furniture company. Some of the stands gave a small metal plaque with DRGM on it,Steve wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:13 pm So the table is an early Zonophone stand? Do people still believe £400 is expensive? An early Zonophone to put on it would cost you several times that sum.
Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:22 pm
Consider the population doubled, I have 3, (and am aware of about a dozen more - and I do not know that many people) So now Quintupled.gramophone78 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 2:07 pm The Gramophone stand on Ebay is very real and rare. I believe they were sold in the UK, German and Italian markets. Counting mine, I know of only of two others with the one on Ebay. Here it is in a Italian catalog. Oak Record Cabinet (2).JPGEleganti Tavolini (1).JPG
Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:08 pm
Are you interested in parting with one of your three because I'm ready to cross your palms with silver.Sidewinder wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:22 pmConsider the population doubled, I have 3, (and am aware of about a dozen more - and I do not know that many people) So now Quintupled.gramophone78 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 2:07 pm The Gramophone stand on Ebay is very real and rare. I believe they were sold in the UK, German and Italian markets. Counting mine, I know of only of two others with the one on Ebay. Here it is in a Italian catalog. Oak Record Cabinet (2).JPGEleganti Tavolini (1).JPG
If no one other than Ebayman has one for sale then it does make his example exclusive and rare. There could be 200 out there but if only one is available for sale its worth whatever the seller and buyer decide between them.
The Ebay example is not available under an offer. The price is fixed at £400. The "Make an offer" option was apparently a listing error (not corrected at the time of writing).
Re: Gramophone table
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:19 pm
They are all slightly different, all 3 the same would be boring! Here a pic of the 1 not buried in the cellar. As you see, the top is more decorative on this example.
The company also made a desktop model ( with free dust)
The company also made a desktop model ( with free dust)