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Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:56 am
by Inigo
just as it is now, of you place it in the corner of two walls, the sound directed along the bisector line, the walls and floor will act as an extension of the horn, and the sound is still greater, as Marco has said. A test of this with a hmv 102 or 101 on the floor in a room corner will show these spectacular results
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:06 am
by nostalgia
Thank you Inigo, for the explanation.
Then I will chop off the remaining parts of the legs, wish me luck.
Chopping off legs feels like a sacrilege, but I know,.,,,they are already chopped off halfway down, so now the rest will also go.
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:20 am
by Inigo
I see no pain in living with small legs... it helps when moving the machine. if you remove them completely it will be difficult to move and not very aesthetic... The current aspect of the machine is good. Besides that, you could add casters if you wish, not original, but very practical with these machines.
I believe people cut the lower parts of legs because of water damage, flooding, etc. woodworm also typically attacks the legs of furniture.
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:43 am
by JerryVan
nostalgia wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:06 am
Thank you Inigo, for the explanation.
Then I will chop off the remaining parts of the legs, wish me luck.
Chopping off legs feels like a sacrilege, but I know,.,,,they are already chopped off halfway down, so now the rest will also go.
If it matters, I think that would be a real shame. It looks nice now. If you didn't know the legs were supposed to be longer you wouldn't find its current situation at all odd. However, removing the rest of the legs would make it look altered and strange. Just my take on it.
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:21 am
by nostalgia
Marco Gilardetti wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:39 am
...but here comes the antichrist of cabinetry.
Since the bottom part of the legs are already missing and are nowhere to be found again, if this were my machine, I'd cut to zero those useless stumps of the legs in order to have the bottom of the horn laying down to the floor. Then I'd put the machine right in the middle of a corner, and I'd enjoy the tremendously increased bass response.
I actually fancied doing the same with my machine in a reversible way, but as the legs' structure is nearly perfect I decided that it was definitely not the case to mess it up. But since the damage was already done to this machine, I would go all the way and experiment with it.
I really don't want to misunderstand all this, when you replied today Inigo, I thought you supported Marco's view on removing completely the rest of the legs. Now I think you feel I should keep the legs, and Jerry too feels the same.
I admit, having been very hesitant to remove the last part of the legs myself, and have been thinking about this matter since it first came up a few months ago in this thread.
The legs are still there.
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:46 am
by Inigo
If it serves, just Jerry and me are from the "don't cut the remaining legs" club. It looks normal to anyone not knowing the original, even nice.
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:19 am
by JerryVan
Inigo wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:46 am
It looks normal to anyone not knowing the original, even nice.
Yes! Exactly.
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:39 am
by nostalgia
I will keep the legs !
I am glad I hesitated before finding the saw. I myself from the start felt bad about removing the legs completely, also because it is part of the gramoophone, and the remaining legs also look good, and as you say Inigo...if one did not know the legs had been removed, and did not know this model in detail, one would not even think about the fact that a part has been cut off.
That said, this will be a very different 163, when it is restored. If I am brave, I will maybe upload some photos, when it is finished, in 2-3 weeks time.
And...thanks to the "don't cut the remaining legs" club, for all advice. You know who you are...
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:56 am
by JerryVan
nostalgia wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:39 am
I will keep the legs !
I am glad I hesitated before finding the saw. I myself from the start felt bad about removing the legs completely, also because it is part of the gramoophone, and the remaining legs also look good, and as you say Inigo...if one did not know the legs had been removed, and did not know this model in detail, one would not even think about the fact that a part has been cut off.
That said, this will be a very different 163, when it is restored. If I am brave, I will maybe upload some photos, when it is finished, in 2-3 weeks time.
And...thanks to the "don't cut the remaining legs" club, for all advice. You know who you are...
Awesome! As long as there's no LEDs or lasers involved, I'm sure you end product will be nice. Keep us informed of your progress.
Re: HMV Model 163...variations, or not?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:11 pm
by Steve
