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Re: I DID NOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:11 pm
by audiophile102
fmblizz wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:24 pm Are these Victor EV's or am I missing something.


Blizz
I am also confused. Ev technology has nothing to do with antique phonographs. There is a place on the forum for general topics.

Re: I DID NOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:31 pm
by PeterF
There was another recent thread, tenuously connected to phonographs but primarily a modern day Lady Macbeth indulging us with a poor reenactment of one of her key scenes. It somehow mutated into a conversation about electric cars, so I decided to start a new conversation with that as the starting point.

Should’ve put it in the parlor, I suppose, but too late now.

FWIW, all my daily driver phonographs have electric motors or aftermarket Motrola spring winders. Cranks are no fun - on phonos or on cars.

Re: I DID NOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:04 am
by gramophone-georg
Steve wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:18 am
gramophone-georg wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:29 pm I like beer.
Must be room temperature if it's proper beer! ;)
Because your refrigerators are built by Lucas. :roll:

Re: I DID NOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:05 am
by gramophone-georg
PeterF wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:31 pm There was another recent thread, tenuously connected to phonographs but primarily a modern day Lady Macbeth indulging us with a poor reenactment of one of her key scenes. It somehow mutated into a conversation about electric cars, so I decided to start a new conversation with that as the starting point.

Should’ve put it in the parlor, I suppose, but too late now.

FWIW, all my daily driver phonographs have electric motors or aftermarket Motrola spring winders. Cranks are no fun - on phonos or on cars.
There is but one true Crank... ^^^

Re: I DID NOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:23 am
by Valecnik
PeterF wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:50 am

We are on our second electric car. We installed a $400 charger on the side of the house, running a very fat extension cord to the 3-phase outlet for the electric dryer. $2 of electricity for 100 miles of driving. Charge overnight in our own driveway.

Never ever have to deal with any of this, ever again:

- pumping gas
- the entire filthy gas station experience
- oil changes
- brake pad replacement
- the related time and money and hassle required for doing those things
- vehicle maintenance of any kind other than tires and wiper blades

Plus we eventually get to stop sending armies overseas to protect the oil supply.

We rented a Tesla Model 3 recently from Hertz. The rate was comparable to an ICE car. We put 550 miles on it in 2 days. Comfortable, effortless charging, and easy in every way. The charging infrastructure is already in place and continues to be built out. The Model Y Tesla small SUV is currently (pun intended) the top selling vehicle in the US, beating out the next two (both Toyotas).

Other major carmakers are making their vehicles compatible with the Tesla infrastructure now, as well as the existing non-Tesla public chargers.

Old movies sometimes show folks shouting “get a horse!” at early cars as they chugged past. Hear an echo?
Bravo Peter F!

We are tackling the same problem in a slightly different sequence. In February we installed 15kwp of Solar on our rooftop. Annual savings should be about 70%. Currently our electric bill in sunny July was reduced by about 90%. Installation of an Electric heat pump to replace our gas system will be complete by the end of September, after a lengthy wait. We added about 10 inches of insulation to our already insulated attic and a wrap around outside insulation of the walls is in progress.

Oh and as part of the necessary electrical upgrade, we added an EV charging station. Given what we've spent on these other projects, the EV will have to wait awhile. Our current cars, 11 and 22 years old, will have to last a little longer. Our next car(s) be electric. My wife wants to go with the bigger Mercedes. I'm partial to the Edison. Neither seems to be in stock right now though.
Thomas Edison Electric Car.jpg
Mercedes Electric Car.jpg
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Re: I DID NOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:45 am
by Steve
Valecnik wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:23 am
PeterF wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:50 am

We are on our second electric car. We installed a $400 charger on the side of the house, running a very fat extension cord to the 3-phase outlet for the electric dryer. $2 of electricity for 100 miles of driving. Charge overnight in our own driveway.

Never ever have to deal with any of this, ever again:

- pumping gas
- the entire filthy gas station experience
- oil changes
- brake pad replacement
- the related time and money and hassle required for doing those things
- vehicle maintenance of any kind other than tires and wiper blades

Plus we eventually get to stop sending armies overseas to protect the oil supply.

We rented a Tesla Model 3 recently from Hertz. The rate was comparable to an ICE car. We put 550 miles on it in 2 days. Comfortable, effortless charging, and easy in every way. The charging infrastructure is already in place and continues to be built out. The Model Y Tesla small SUV is currently (pun intended) the top selling vehicle in the US, beating out the next two (both Toyotas).

Other major carmakers are making their vehicles compatible with the Tesla infrastructure now, as well as the existing non-Tesla public chargers.

Old movies sometimes show folks shouting “get a horse!” at early cars as they chugged past. Hear an echo?
We added about 10 inches of insulation to our already insulated attic and a wrap around outside insulation of the walls is in progress.

Oh and as part of the necessary electrical upgrade, we added an EV charging station. Given what we've spent on these other projects, the EV will have to wait awhile. Our current cars, 11 and 22 years old, will have to last a little longer. Our next car(s) be electric. My wife wants to go with the bigger Mercedes. I'm partial to the Edison. Neither seems to be in stock right now though.

Thomas Edison Electric Car.jpgMercedes Electric Car.jpg
That's the correct way to do it, certainly; by wrapping the outside, you create a thermal store using the existing walls of the structure.

By the way, thanks for those photos, they are great and go to prove that really very little changes in a century of "progress".

Re: I DID NOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:01 am
by Inigo
Does anyone remember the mini-electric car craze in Paris, France, in the seventies? When I was a little teenager I used to go to the train station to collect the Vogue magazine for my mother, shipped to our town directly from France, of which she was a subscriber. I recall the several articles talking about the electric car craze to solve Paris traffic problems... This used to be by 1975....

Re: I DID NOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:22 am
by marcapra
Peter interesting topic. Long time no see. Are you coming to the APS show next week? Marc Capralis