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Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 4:32 pm
by Edisonfan
Turns out, I had put the new governor in, incorrectly. Causing it to be out of alignment. So, I readjusted it.

Also, found the real culprit of my frustration, was the belt. I slipped it off the belt tensioner and next thing I know, the motor is running. So, I need to buy a new belt for this machine. Also, I found a new spring for the speed control arm.

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:40 am
by JerryVan
Edisonfan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 4:32 pm I slipped it off the belt tensioner and next thing I know, the motor is running.
Does the small brass wheel on the belt tensioner turn, or is it stuck by old, dried oil? A stuck idler wheel can stop a motor dead.

It would be kind of odd for a bad belt to stop a motor from running.

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:49 am
by Edisonfan
JerryVan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:40 am
Edisonfan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 4:32 pm I slipped it off the belt tensioner and next thing I know, the motor is running.
Does the small brass wheel on the belt tensioner turn, or is it stuck by old, dried oil? A stuck idler wheel can stop a motor dead.

It would be kind of odd for a bad belt to stop a motor from running.
The tensioner wheel moves just fine. I don’t think the belt is even leather?

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:07 am
by JerryVan
Edisonfan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:49 am
JerryVan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:40 am
Edisonfan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 4:32 pm I slipped it off the belt tensioner and next thing I know, the motor is running.
Does the small brass wheel on the belt tensioner turn, or is it stuck by old, dried oil? A stuck idler wheel can stop a motor dead.

It would be kind of odd for a bad belt to stop a motor from running.
The tensioner wheel moves just fine. I don’t think the belt is even leather?
Okay, then maybe it's the belt...

For a test only, try using a rubber band as a belt.

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:43 am
by Edisonfan
JerryVan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:07 am
Edisonfan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:49 am
JerryVan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:40 am

Does the small brass wheel on the belt tensioner turn, or is it stuck by old, dried oil? A stuck idler wheel can stop a motor dead.

It would be kind of odd for a bad belt to stop a motor from running.
The tensioner wheel moves just fine. I don’t think the belt is even leather?
Okay, then maybe it's the belt...

For a test only, try using a rubber band as a belt.
Yea, I don’t have any rubber bands?

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:09 pm
by JerryVan
Edisonfan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:43 am
JerryVan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:07 am
Edisonfan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:49 am

The tensioner wheel moves just fine. I don’t think the belt is even leather?
Okay, then maybe it's the belt...

For a test only, try using a rubber band as a belt.
Yea, I don’t have any rubber bands?
They are generally available just about anywhere...

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:34 pm
by Edisonfan
JerryVan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:09 pm
Edisonfan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:43 am
JerryVan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:07 am

Okay, then maybe it's the belt...

For a test only, try using a rubber band as a belt.
Yea, I don’t have any rubber bands?
They are generally available just about anywhere...
Well, I got one of those wide brown rubber bands from my parents, and that didn’t work? Even after oiling the top gears.

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:38 pm
by gramophone-georg
Is the mandrel siezed?

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:44 pm
by Edisonfan
gramophone-georg wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:38 pm Is the mandrel siezed?
If I can turn the mandrel with my hand it’s not, seized. The fireside has gears, and the rubber band is not strong enough.

Re: Edison Fireside need help?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:21 pm
by Edisonfan
Okay, i’m still frustrated with this machine. I bought a new leather belt and put it on. Wound up the motor removed the brake, and nothing? Someone asked if it might be the wheel on the tensioner spring for the belt. I can get the wheel on there to move. Now, when I turn the mandrel by hand it does feel stiff, but I can move it. It seems like the belt is unable to pull the mandrel. If I move the tensioner spring back, the motor will run.