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The Spanish model designation is Modelo No. 17. It appeared around 1910. The retail price with mahogany horn was 490 pesetas, equivalent to about £19 at the time.

I've seen a handful of them, so they're not extremely rare. Here is another one, again with the wrong soundbox, but still with all 5" discs under the angel sculptures.

Starkton wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:20 am The Spanish model designation is Modelo No. 17. It appeared around 1910. The retail price with mahogany horn was 490 pesetas, equivalent to about £19 at the time.

I've seen a handful of them, so they're not extremely rare. Here is another one, again with the wrong soundbox, but still with all 5" discs under the angel sculptures.

That is a stunning example of one. Thanks for confirming the model number. It begs the question, was there a Modelo No. 15 then? There was a "two-tone" Spanish wooden horn with both a light, almost orange marmalade colour contrasting with the darker red mahogany. I would have expected that horn to have appeared on the "17" with its matching two tone base and maybe even matching pedestal?

A friend of mine who does not know anything about gramophones and doesn't collect said after seeing the Ebay example, "Now, THAT is surely something any gramophone collector would want to own. I don't collect gramophones but I'd certainly want that in my house!"

If anyone has this model for sale please do contact me!

At increasing prices, one could choose between three horns: "enameled" zinc, brass, or mahogany.