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Why is it hard for the "Forum" to print "tin cans" re reference to Spanish cylinder containers. OK so by putting something in quotes does is foul up the translation?? If so my apology and will be more careful in the future. In any case the point is there are no American "tin cans" (there I go again) like the colorful European stuff to house cylinders. LH

Curt A wrote:Here is a pic of a high end Victor VI from supposedly the same era as this Spanish one. Notice the crank placement is toward the front of the case - not the rear, like a Victrola.
http://www.collectorsworldinc.com/image ... 6%20rt.jpg

Well, the Victor VI was introduced in late 1904, and was initially fitted with the bevel gear motor, which had the crank to the front. The spiral drive motor, which was first used in 1906, had the crank to the rear. About half of all Victor VI machines used the early motor, for by the time of the introduction of the spiral motor the cabinet machines began to cut in to high end sales.

As for the Victrola No. 2 reproducer, it was introduced in 1918, January, as I recall.

Now that said, the crank suggests a 1918-1920 vintage motor. That would put the machine in the correct time frame, but the refinishing on this unit (if refinishing it is) makes it very difficult to properly evaluate.

Bang. The mate to the machine matching this eBay listing is found.

http://www.coleccionfb.com/gramophone_espana.htm

Go back to main page and take a spin through this amazing collection. Besides the Model 13 which is the subject of this string watch the video of the hot air machine playing. Amazing. Guess we all learned something here. Yes decals are mounted on the the top of horns in the Spanish market and the crank does sit back in the case etc etc. LH

Larry Hawes wrote:Bang. The mate to the machine matching this eBay listing is found.

http://www.coleccionfb.com/gramophone_espana.htm

Go back to main page and take a spin through this amazing collection. Besides the Model 13 which is the subject of this string watch the video of the hot air machine playing. Amazing. Guess we all learned something here. Yes decals are mounted on the the top of horns in the Spanish market and the crank does sit back in the case etc etc. LH

Agreed: that is an amazing collection!