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You have some major winners there, particularly Come Josephine in My Flying Machine. Lots of good German material including at least 2 Christmas songs.

I assume you've figured out that "Goldguss Walz" just means "Gold Moulded cylinder", right? I did notice you had 10517 in your Goldguss list. That's actually a regular US issue that must've somehow gotten into that box. It's fairly late for a 2M release, coming out in October 1911 when Edison was only issuing 5 new 2M titles each month. The singer is Will Oakland.

Most of your GM records should have the artist announced, but if you need details on the later ones that don't announce the artist, I can help you, as can many other board members.
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52089 wrote:You have some major winners there, particularly Come Josephine in My Flying Machine. Lots of good German material including at least 2 Christmas songs.

I assume you've figured out that "Goldguss Walz" just means "Gold Moulded cylinder", right? I did notice you had 10517 in your Goldguss list. That's actually a regular US issue that must've somehow gotten into that box. It's fairly late for a 2M release, coming out in October 1911 when Edison was only issuing 5 new 2M titles each month. The singer is Will Oakland.

Most of your GM records should have the artist announced, but if you need details on the later ones that don't accounce the artist, I can help you, as can many other board members.
Thanks! Yes I know about the Goldguss, unfortunately I have none of the proper boxes for them. And "oops" on the 10517, I inadvertently mislabeled that on the spreadsheet, thanks for pointing out my error. I actually have the complete box and lid for that one...one of the few complete ones that I have in fact.

Josephine is a "new" favorite for me, being recently freed from my longtime stash. "By the Light of the Silvery Moon", has been one of the few I've had out to play for many years.

I look forward to adding to the collection, I'll need to do a lot of listening. :)

Fran

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52089,
One question I do have is; there are 2 kinds of the MG's, one the taper bore is smooth, the other is "ribbed" are these different manufacturing techniques throughout the years?
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fran604g wrote:52089,
One question I do have is; there are 2 kinds of the MG's, one the taper bore is smooth, the other is "ribbed" are these different manufacturing techniques throughout the years?
Thanks,
Fran
The smooth bore cylinders were produced temporarily as a result of a patent dispute over ribbed bores. I don't recall the specific timeframe, but 1906-ish comes to mind. The patent expired not long after the dispute, and Edison went back to the ribbed version.

The history of sound recording, in all aspects, is reflected in numerous patents, their licensing, their enforcement, etc. It all gets very technical, but to me it's fascinating.

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52089 wrote:
fran604g wrote:52089,
One question I do have is; there are 2 kinds of the MG's, one the taper bore is smooth, the other is "ribbed" are these different manufacturing techniques throughout the years?
Thanks,
Fran
The smooth bore cylinders were produced temporarily as a result of a patent dispute over ribbed bores. I don't recall the specific timeframe, but 1906-ish comes to mind. The patent expired not long after the dispute, and Edison went back to the ribbed version.

The history of sound recording, in all aspects, is reflected in numerous patents, their licensing, their enforcement, etc. It all gets very technical, but to me it's fascinating.
Thanks!
I read about it in Tim and George's, "The Talking Machine, An Illustrated Compendium", and found it all very interesting, but very confusing. I need to re-read portions and absorb it a little better. :) It really is fascinating. I thought business was cut-throat in modern times!
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