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Valecnik wrote:1. Model Designation: ( C-19)

2. Serial Number: 87112

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: N

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Round

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise (Diamond Disc, Offical Labroratory Model, Thos. A. Edison)

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves? (Two shelves with 36 sleeves each)

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? (OAK)

8. Duncan Stop?: N

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine none

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc.: (none:

11. Grille cloth? Color? Original, Olive Green

Thank you, Valecnik! I appreciate the information, and have yours recorded. Of particular interest is your shipping slip posted on an earlier page.

Best,
Fran

Valecnik wrote:I only have the packing slip for this one, no machine

1. Model Designation: (C-19)

2. Serial Number: 89808

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: don't know

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: dont know

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise don't know

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves don't know

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? Fumed oak acc. to packing slip

8. Duncan Stop?: Y/N don't know

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine don't know

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc.: (Dates are particularly noteworthy): Packing slip says K-5-O where the date should be written. (picture of it is available on my website)

11. Grille cloth? Color? don't know

Thank you for this! It will be valuable in establishing a point in time, I think.

Best,
Fran

Fran,
Good for you for taking on this project! At last we will have some serial number milestones for when pinstripes were dropped on the C-250, when the model designation changed to C-19, and when the drawers on the C-19 were replaced by shelves. This project will keep you busy!

George P.

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1. Model Designation: C-19

2. Serial Number: 96451

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: No

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Round

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise "Diamond Disc, Official Laboratory Model, Thos. A. Edison"

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves? Two shelves

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? Oak

8. Duncan Stop?: No

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine None

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc.: None

11. Grille cloth? Color? None

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1. Model Designation: C-250

2. Serial Number: 23481

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: Yes

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Pentagon

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise "The C-250 Diamond Disc Phonograph is the Official Laboratory Model, Thos. A. Edison"

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves? Drawers

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? Oak

8. Duncan Stop?: No

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine: None

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc.: None

11. Grille cloth? Color? None

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1. Model Designation: C-250

2. Serial Number: 27659

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: Yes

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Pentagon

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise "The C-250 Diamond Disc Phonograph is the Official Laboratory Model, Thos. A. Edison"

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves? Drawers

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? Oak now, but originally mahogany

8. Duncan Stop?: Yes

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine: None

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc.: None

11. Grille cloth? Color? None

phonogfp wrote:Fran,
Good for you for taking on this project! At last we will have some serial number milestones for when pinstripes were dropped on the C-250, when the model designation changed to C-19, and when the drawers on the C-19 were replaced by shelves. This project will keep you busy!

George P.

Thank you, George, for your help in getting this started. Your advice and keen eye has been indispensable!

Your Chippendales are #27, 28 and 29. I like how this project is growing so quickly. I hope it continues as rapidly as it began.

Talk to you soon,
Fran

Hello, Fran: Here's another.

Model: C 250
Serial #: SM--18288
Pinstriping: Yes
Lab. Medallion: raised circle on pentagon
Exact Wording: The C 250 Diamond Disc Phonograph is the Official Laboratory Model
Record Storage: Drawers
Finish: Brown mahogany
Duncan Stop: No
Dealer tagged: No
Sales Receipt: No
Grill cloth: Missing
-Auld Bill

wjw wrote:Hello, Fran: Here's another.

Model: C 250
Serial #: SM--18288
Pinstriping: Yes
Lab. Medallion: raised circle on pentagon
Exact Wording: The C 250 Diamond Disc Phonograph is the Official Laboratory Model
Record Storage: Drawers
Finish: Brown mahogany
Duncan Stop: No
Dealer tagged: No
Sales Receipt: No
Grill cloth: Missing
-Auld Bill

Thank you, "Auld Bill"! You're the thirtieth contribution.
Best,
Fran

I have the following

Model: c-19
SN 184391
Pinstriping: No except "Trade Thomas Edison Mark" in gold upper right corner
Medallion: raised circle
Wording: Diamond Disc Official Laboratory Model Thos A Edison
(There's a chick standing at the left)
Record storage: shelves with dividers, two rows
Finish: mahogany
Dealer tag on rear panel of lid: The Phonograph Co. Huron Road, Cleveland Ohio + two phone numbers
Duncan Stop: I don't know what this is but it has a brake
Also a lever at lower left of motor board that moves a dowel left and right, unknown use
Sales recpt: none
Grille cloth was replaced with red flannel, now removed.

John

welshfield wrote:I have the following

Model: c-19
SN 184391

Duncan Stop: I don't know what this is but it has a brake

Also a lever at lower left of motor board that moves a dowel left and right, unknown use


John

The Duncan Stop was ( I believe ) an early auto-brake that employed an electromagnet and drycell battery to release the spring-loaded turntable brake.

The sliding lever along the front of the bed-plate is the volume control: it operates a Bowden-wire (similar to an automotive choke or throttle able), which moves a stuffed felt ball ( about 3 inches in diameter ) in & out of the mouth of the horn. Some times the ball is missing from the machine.

Thanks De Soto. Mine has no Duncan stop then.
Shelve slots are numbered 1-36 and 37-72 by the way.
I do not use the slots at the far ends because I find it difficult to remove the records and fear damaging them.
John

Hi Fran!
I see you've been bitten by the data bug. Good for you! Good for us! I'll be looking forward to seeing the list grow. Here's mine for the list. I've added a Miscellaneous Notes in case you find it useful later. When doing my Standard data I've found stuff in my notes area that led to new categories over the years. Good luck with the project!


1. Model Designation: C-19

2. Serial Number: 136969

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: No

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Round

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise: N/A - currently has "Diamond Disc, Official Laboratory Model, Thos. A. Edison"

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves? Two shelves - (1-36 each strip - replacements)

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? Mahogany

8. Duncan Stop?: No

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine: None

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc.: None

11. Grille cloth? Color? N/A - currently has maroon

12. Misc. notes: Patent plate on front left inside of case - anodized aluminum with die cut corners (last patent date May 23, 1916), has green TT felt, reproducer serial number B46991 (thought to be original to machine), speed control knob on top of bedplate (left, rear), case finish is red mahogany (outside is refinished), machine acquired from antique shop in Healdsburg, CA in 2004 - now located in Covina, CA. 05/04/14.

- Martin