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Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:57 pm
by TinfoilPhono
One very important point: be sure the spring is
completely wound down before removing the governor or you're in for a nasty surprise when it suddenly lets go.

Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:01 pm
by AmberolaAndy
TinfoilPhono wrote:One very important point: be sure the spring is
completely wound down before removing the governor or you're in for a nasty surprise when it suddenly lets go.

Yup. It shouldn’t be any harder than when I cleaned and rebuilt my VV-50 motor last month. It will be awhile before I even get any new weights and springs anyway.
Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:21 am
by Menophanes
fran604g wrote:In his book "Columbia Phonograph Companion Volume 1" Howard Hazlecorn records the 1st version Type Q serial number blocks as encompassing 321,886 - 351,621, and 600,362 - 633,154.
The 2nd version is recorded as encompassing 803,157 - 1,065,180.
It's been proven in the earlier posts I linked that the 1st version serial numbers began lower.
Best,
Fran
And my 647,122 is still the first version, with the same patent dates as Andy's and with the right-hand end of the governor supported by a stanchion mounted on the baseplate rather than by a horizontal cage screwed to the inner motor plate.
Oliver Mundy.
Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:39 am
by fran604g
Menophanes wrote:fran604g wrote:In his book "Columbia Phonograph Companion Volume 1" Howard Hazlecorn records the 1st version Type Q serial number blocks as encompassing 321,886 - 351,621, and 600,362 - 633,154.
The 2nd version is recorded as encompassing 803,157 - 1,065,180.
It's been proven in the earlier posts I linked that the 1st version serial numbers began lower.
Best,
Fran
And my 647,122 is still the first version, with the same patent dates as Andy's and with the right-hand end of the governor supported by a stanchion mounted on the baseplate rather than by a horizontal cage screwed to the inner motor plate.
Oliver Mundy.
That's very interesting.
I've said it before, and again: I'd love to see someone start a "registry" of Q types, features, and serial numbers.
Happy holiday regards,
Fran
Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:41 am
by phonogfp
fran604g wrote:
I've said it before, and again: I'd love to see someone start a "registry" of Q types, features, and serial numbers.
I can't think of a better guy to do this than you, Fran! I have three examples for which I can contribute data. Need any assistance with a questionnaire?
George P.
Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:45 am
by fran604g
phonogfp wrote:fran604g wrote:
I've said it before, and again: I'd love to see someone start a "registry" of Q types, features, and serial numbers.
I can't think of a better guy to do this than you, Fran! I have three examples for which I can contribute data. Need any assistance with a questionnaire?
George P.
You should talk! What's one more, right?
Cheers,
Fran
Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:42 pm
by AmberolaAndy
Well, here we are all cleaned up! I did a tear down and cleaned up everything. The steel is discolored but most of the rust and grime iis gone! I’m still probably going to refurbish the governor.
Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:15 pm
by phonogfp
Hey - wasn't that easy and fun? Now you're a Q expert, and have gained confidence for future projects.
It looks nice - - that Q has already come a long way!
George P.
Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:56 pm
by TinfoilPhono
That's a great transformation!
Re: My first Graphophone! And serial number question.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:59 pm
by AmberolaAndy
phonogfp wrote:Hey - wasn't that easy and fun? Now you're a Q expert, and have gained confidence for future projects.
It looks nice - - that Q has already come a long way!
George P.
Well, there was a lot of elbow grease and some cussing but I got it working.

I’m pretty happy how it turned out. Now I need a reproducer.
Here’s a video I made of my progress
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i8mFC6oRM94