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AmberolaAndy wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:11 pm

Lucius1958 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:56 pm

AmberolaAndy wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:03 pm Ok another thing I noticed, is the half nut supposed to look like this or is something missing that goes on the half nut and spring to adjust the tracking?

The half nut bar on my Triumph looks much like that, except it has a little dogleg to it, instead of being straight.

- Bill

Is the “dogleg” the part I circled in the other photo?

No. See the picture I included below for an example of the Triumph "offset" half nut bar. They're far less common than conventional Triumph half nut bars.

Doug

FellowCollector wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:12 am

AmberolaAndy wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:11 pm

Lucius1958 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:56 pm
The half nut bar on my Triumph looks much like that, except it has a little dogleg to it, instead of being straight.

- Bill

Is the “dogleg” the part I circled in the other photo?

No. See the picture I included below for an example of the Triumph "offset" half nut bar. They're far less common than conventional Triumph half nut bars.

Doug

So my Triumph spring and half nut are supposed to be like that?

Which of the four screws do I adjust for the tracking?

"So my Triumph spring and half nut are supposed to be like that?"

No. What you have looks correct.

Why do you want to adjust the ½ nut tracking? Does it skip while playing? How would even know if it does, since you can't play it with your current brake/speed control issue?

JerryVan wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:18 pm "So my Triumph spring and half nut are supposed to be like that?"

No. What you have looks correct.

Why do you want to adjust the ½ nut tracking? Does it skip while playing? How would even know if it does, since you can't play it with your current brake/speed control issue?

Just in case if it has to be done afterwards. I’m nervous I’m gonna damage something else (especially the tracking bar) while fixing the speed control /brake issue. Maybe I’m overthinking it. I need to set the machine aside until I order and get that part. Take it one at a time…

AmberolaAndy wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:29 pm

JerryVan wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:18 pm "So my Triumph spring and half nut are supposed to be like that?"

No. What you have looks correct.

Why do you want to adjust the ½ nut tracking? Does it skip while playing? How would even know if it does, since you can't play it with your current brake/speed control issue?

Just in case if it has to be done afterwards. I’m nervous I’m gonna damage something else (especially the tracking bar) while fixing the speed control /brake issue. Maybe I’m overthinking it. I need to set the machine aside until I order and get that part. Take it one at a time…

Oh my goodness... Please relax. At the end of the day, it's just a "thing" and not a human life. You're not going damage anything else if you can just remain calm.

AmberolaAndy wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:11 pm
Is the “dogleg” the part I circled in the other photo?

No: the bar has a little jog to one side, before straightening out again. - Bill

Lucius1958 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:24 pm

AmberolaAndy wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:11 pm
Is the “dogleg” the part I circled in the other photo?

No: the bar has a little jog to one side, before straightening out again.
Photo on 12-13-18 at 4.34 PM.jpg
- Bill

My half nut is a straight as an arrow

JerryVan wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:18 pm

Oh my goodness... Please relax. At the end of the day, it's just a "thing" and not a human life. You're not going damage anything else if you can just remain calm.
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Well I just had an incident where I think I damaged to my 3 pin Amphenol aux cable to my Meissner record cutter. Earlier today it worked and passed a signal though the amp fine. A few hours later and now has decided it doesn’t want to work! I’m just having every Murphy’s Law thing happen.

But that cable is still under warranty and gonna be fixed.

Is it possible someone somehow may have wedged that mystery nut in, either under the yoke or the spring, to make the repro yoke work as it should?

If so, it wouldn't be a permanent solution obviously but it may at least make the machine usable until a replacement yoke can be found.

gramophoneshane wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:08 am Is it possible someone somehow may have wedged that mystery nut in, either under the yoke or the spring, to make the repro yoke work as it should?

If so, it wouldn't be a permanent solution obviously but it may at least make the machine usable until a replacement yoke can be found.

Well I’m proud to say I got that replacement YOKE (I’ve been spelling it wrong) ordered! Hopefully that fixes one of many things going wrong on me.

I got the cygnet attached to it too!