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Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:30 pm
by AmberolaAndy
Cylinders vs discs being compared to VHS vs beta
January 4, 1992
Nice to see the prices for Columbia and Victor outside horn machines hasn’t changed.
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:47 pm
by AmberolaAndy
California collector: October 6, 1984
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:15 pm
by AmberolaAndy
So in 1976 somebody stole some Edison artifacts and they were recovered in June 1985? Anyone familiar with this story? I really dislike people who steal in this hobby that’s all I know.
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:20 pm
by drh
AmberolaAndy wrote:Cylinders vs discs being compared to VHS vs beta
January 4, 1992
Nice to see the prices for Columbia and Victor outside horn machines hasn’t changed.
Hmmmm...so Edison stopped production of cylinder machines in 1912? News to me--and anyone who's ever owned an Amberola 30/50/75! And another trotting-out of that old bromide about how Edison hired only "nobodies" for his records. Sigh....
First time I'd heard that story about talent shows, however. I wonder where the reporter got
that one?
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:37 pm
by phonogfp
AmberolaAndy wrote:So in 1976 somebody stole some Edison artifacts and they were recovered in July 1985? Anyone familiar with this story? I really dislike people who steal in this hobby that’s all I know.
This was huge at the time. Petersen not only stole from the ENHS (now the Thomas A. Edison Historic Park), but he destroyed numerous documents by cutting off the Edison signatures and selling them separately - - thinking they would be impossible to trace.
Hundreds of collectors (myself included) received letters from the FBI asking for assistance in locating the missing documents. Thankfully, I hadn't bought anything from Petersen, but I expect a number of collectors, after buying in good faith, found themselves possessing stolen property.
I had done research in the vault in West Orange several times during the years 1978-1985, and the security was non-existent. Thankfully, it's pretty airtight now. It's just a shame that it was necessary. I never met Petersen, but I hope he's occupying a special corner of hell.
George P.
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:39 pm
by phonogfp
drh wrote:
First time I'd heard that story about talent shows, however. I wonder where the reporter got that one?
The reporter may have learned just a fragment about the Edison "Tone Tests," and taken it from there.
George P.
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:52 pm
by AmberolaAndy
phonogfp wrote:AmberolaAndy wrote:So in 1976 somebody stole some Edison artifacts and they were recovered in July 1985? Anyone familiar with this story? I really dislike people who steal in this hobby that’s all I know.
This was huge at the time. Petersen not only stole from the ENHS (now the Thomas A. Edison Historic Park), but he destroyed numerous documents by cutting off the Edison signatures and selling them separately - - thinking they would be impossible to trace.
Hundreds of collectors (myself included) received letters from the FBI asking for assistance in locating the missing documents. Thankfully, I hadn't bought anything from Petersen, but I expect a number of collectors, after buying in good faith, found themselves possessing stolen property.
I had done research in the vault in West Orange several times during the years 1978-1985, and the security was non-existent. Thankfully, it's pretty airtight now. It's just a shame that it was necessary. I never met Petersen, but I hope he's occupying a special corner of hell.
George P.
Has anyone have any issues of the American Phonographic Journal and this THEIF’S articles? What ever happened to him afterwards? He would be about 98 years old today. So I doubt he’s with us anymore. I know I shouldn’t get so worked up about something that happened 5-14 years before I was born.
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:13 pm
by phonogfp
AmberolaAndy wrote:
Has anyone have any issues of the American Phonographic Journal and this THEIF’S articles? What ever happened to him afterwards? He would be about 98 years old today. So I doubt he’s with us anymore. I know I shouldn’t get so worked up about something that happened 5-14 years before I was born.
Yes, I imagine quite a few of us have them. I believe they are in the APS online archive which is available to all APS members. Petersen did very good research, and his articles were excellent - especially for the 1970s-80s. He was an academic who was employed by Stanford University. Once the FBI caught him, he cultivated a new group of colleagues at San Quentin. He died many years ago.
George P.
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:25 pm
by AmberolaAndy
phonogfp wrote:AmberolaAndy wrote:
Has anyone have any issues of the American Phonographic Journal and this THEIF’S articles? What ever happened to him afterwards? He would be about 98 years old today. So I doubt he’s with us anymore. I know I shouldn’t get so worked up about something that happened 5-14 years before I was born.
Yes, I imagine quite a few of us have them. I believe they are in the APS online archive which is available to all APS members. Petersen did very good research, and his articles were excellent - especially for the 1970s-80s. He was an academic who was employed by Stanford University. Once the FBI caught him, he cultivated a new group of colleagues at San Quentin. He died many years ago.
George P.
But you got to wonder where he got some of his materials for his articles...Hmm...
Oh well, moving on.
Has anyone been to the Edison Ford winter estate in Ft. Meyers FL and seen this guy do demos of the machines there?
August 13, 2017
Re: Old newspaper articles about collectors & other phono to
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:36 pm
by AmberolaAndy
Here’s an article about the 1990 Union show!
June 7, 1990