Check out the new Diamond Disc repros! Fantastic!

[billybob62]

Norman,

I love your blue color, label and the idea that it will look unmistakeably Edison DD if it has both sides.

But, if an Edison DD copy were a single, thinner, disc , wouldn't that throw off the reproducer since it is factory set to play a thick disc and the stylus won't touch the record?

Or, would it simply be a thick disc with only one tune?

Just wondering.

[donniej]

Billybob,
You are correct that the discs need to be ¼" thick in order for the reproducer to sit properly on it.
I don't want to speak for Norman, but has I previously mentioned, making a double sided mold isn't twice as difficult as a single sided mold, it's ten times more difficult... and a heck of a lot more expensive. If the goal is to make an affordable disc, single sided makes much more sense. I plan to try again in the near future.

[WDC]

Yes, Don, that's exactly what I was getting at. The resin material would be practically the same to maintain the necessary thickness. But a double-sided mold requires excessively more silicone to provide enough stability for the molding process. And if there was a problem on just one side, the whole mold was go to the garbage then. In other words, a less complicated procedure would, in general, allow a quicker and more reliable production, thus being more economic.

[NEFaurora]

Yeah, You could have the words "NEW EDISON" scribed into it.....lol... That would make for a good repro "Telltale"....or you could just have the word "REPRODUCTION" scribed on it....or just a simple symbol of some type. Just a thought.

)

Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

[marcapra]

I have a good collection of DDs, some of which may be desirable for duplication. All of the record titles I am listing here are in E to N- condition and are titles that I think might have broad appeal. Since we are talking about single sided duplication, I will only list the title of the best side unless both sides are worthy. If Don or Norman sees anything here that they would like to duplicate, they can let me know. Also, It would be very helpful to Don and Norman if you potential buyers see anything here that you would actually buy to mention the serial numbers or titles in further replies. Marc.

51200 Cruel Back Bitin' Blues Ellen Coleman
51438 Battleship Kate Wilbur Sweatman and His Brownies
51724 Horses Earl Oliver's Jazz Babies
51802 Gentlemen Prefer Blondes Billy Jones and Ernest Hare
51848 The Birth of the Blues fox trot Joe Candullo / Why Do you Roll Those Eyes B. A. Rolfe
51877 Fire!/ Cows Earl Oliver's Jazz Babies
51908 Tiger Rag/ Go Joe Go Phil Napoleon
51962 The Cat (A Spooky Novelty) Phil Napoleon / Pardon the Glove (Fast and Hot) Don Voorhees
51988 Ain't She Sweet? Clyde Doerr
51997 La Lo La Phil Napoleon
52021 Clarinet Marmalade/ Rubber Heels (A Bouncing Rhythm) Phil Napoleon
52037 Buffalo Rhythm B. A. Rolfe
52075 Miss Annabelle Lee/ When Erastus Plays His Old Kazoo Golden Gate Orch.
52099 Marvelous Al Lynn's Music Masters, Arthur Fields, vocal
52106 Good News Dave Kaplan
52109 The Varsity Drag Ernie Golden
52123 Someday You'll Say OK! Arthur Fields and His Assassinators
52145 Rhapsody in Blue The Edisonians
52158 I Scream, you scream, we all scream for Ice Cream The Rollickers
52159 What'll you do? Vaughn DE Leath
52198 I Just Roll Along/ What'll You Do? Piccadilly Players with the Radio Girl
52200 Henry's Made a Lady out of Lizzy Billy Jones and Ernest Hare
52227 Symphonic Raps Al Lynn's Music Master
52269 Lolly Pops/ Heebie Jeebies Harry Reser
52275 'S Wonderful Ernie Golden with Vaughn DeLeath, vocal
52323 Mamma's Grown Young, Papa's Grown Old Jack Kaufman and the 7 Blue Babies
52410 I Can't Give You Anything But Love/I Wanna Be Loved By You (very hot fox trots! no vocals) Green Bros. Novelty Orch.
52474 Makin' Whoopee! B. A. Rolfe (hot fox trot version with vocal chorus) Great!
52510 The Toymaker's Dream B. A. Rolfe
52519 Is There Anything Wrong In That?/ Good Little, Bad Little You Ermine Calloway
52548 Dance of the Paper Dolls B. A. Rolfe and His Lucky Strike Orch.
52609 In Old Tia Juana Billy Murray and his Merry Melody Men
52621 I'm Cuckoo Again Jack Dalton and the 7 Blue Babies
52630 On the Farm/ Chinese Wedding Procession The Goldman Band ( I realize this record isn't well known, but it is one of the finest sounding DDs ever made. A demonstration disc if ever there was one!)

[billybob62]

Nice list, marc.

7 Blue Babies is always good.

Still rooting for a 2 sided disc even if it costs more.

Thanks.

John

[billybob62]

Just a crazy thought. Could 2 thinner singles be made and then glued together to make a true 2 sided ¼ inch disc??

[marcapra]

If you're still rooting for a double sided repro which is ten times harder to make, does that mean you're willing to pay $300 for one vs. $30 for a single sided? I'll settle for the single-sided and be happy! Marc.

[donniej]

Just a crazy thought. Could 2 thinner singles be made and then glued together to make a true 2 sided ¼ inch disc??

The spinde holes would not line up, which is a big problem since DD's aren't truly centered to begin with.
DD's are often different diameters.
Getting each exactly ⅛" thick across it's entire surface would make building the mold equally difficult. What I do with the 78's and what I suspect Norman is trying to do with a single sided DD is more like an ice cube tray. You build a very expensive, highly accurate silicone mold and then pour an articulately processed resin into it. After the resin sets, the resulting disc is "cleaned up" and ready to play. Just this is a considerable amount of work, I can't imagine then machining it flat, centering it on another disc and adhering them together. I definitely couldn't do it at my current price point of $30.

[billybob62]

Thanks, Don.
I have no idea how you guys do this and appreciate your explanation.
However this comes out, (and, of course, there may be new ways to improve on the way this is currently done), you both are filling a need and we thank you.