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Dear George

Greetings from chilly England. I am lucky enough to have a super example of these great machines, a Model A. Details:

1. Serial 34727
2. Plate
3. May 31 1898
4. No
5. No
6. Ball catch
7. Single screw
8. 23517
9. Solid (bottom pulley has circular holes)
10. No
11. Banner decal
12. No

I hope this is of use.

Cheers

Keith Harrison

Thanks very much, Keith. Your Triumph make 112 on the database!

George P.

Hi George,

Since you said you could still use data, here is the info from my "B"

1. SN 67735
2. SN in a plate
3. Last Patent May 22, 1906
4. No screws
5. No lugs
6. Locking lug
7. Single screw at 2
8. Motor number 53067
9. Solid gears
10. No plate below
11. Edison Script
12. Not other material

Ron

Thank you, Ron! Please let me know your last name for acknowledgement (PM is you like), or you can request to be anonymous.

Any other Triumphs/Spring Motors out there for inclusion? We're at 117 so far...

George P.

Hi George,

Time to add my Model D Triumph, which is in a mahogany case; three-weight governor:

Edison Spring Motor/Triumph Questionnaire
1) Serial number (found on top): 78765D
2) Is serial number stamped in a plate, or a raised boss? Stamped
3) If stamped in a plate, what’s the last patent date? May 22, 1906
4) Does straight edge (where front of reproducer carriage rides) have 2 screws? No
5) Does the upper casting have lugs for Class M pulley wheels? No
6) Which secures the endgate; a ball catch, or a locking lug? No endgate
7) Does carriage hold the reproducer with nickeled clips, or a single screw at 2:00 position? Single screw
8) Motor number (found stamped on front of motor frame): 61802
9) Are the motor gears solid or spoked? Spoked
10) If there’s a plate below the mandrel, what exactly does it say? N/A
11) Which does the cabinet have; a drawer, a banner decal, or an “Edison” script decal? Script decal
12) Are there any dated material with it? Invoices? Packing slips? Writing inside the lid? No

Oh, all original, except that I replaced the forward-facing, standard hole-size carriage with a top-facing, larger hole carriage.

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Ralph

Thank you, Ralph!

George P.

My first post on the board, my Triumph model A with square corners.

1) 44290
2) Plate
3) Nov. 17, 1903
4) No
5) No
6) Ball catch
7) single screw
8) 30882
9) Solid
10) No Plate
11) Case refinished
12) None

Wow - a ghost of Triumphs past!

Thanks, Wes. That makes 126 in the database.

If you'd like your name included in any future article incorporating this data, please send me a PM or an email to gpaul2000 at aol dot com.

Thanks, and welcome to the forum!

Best,
George P.

I will have 3 more for you on the weekend! If that isnt too late!
Tony

Edison Spring Motor/Triumph Questionnaire
1) Serial number (found on top): 75383
2) Is serial number stamped in a plate, or a raised boss? Plate
3) If stamped in a plate, what’s the last patent date? May 22, 1908
4) Does straight edge (where front of reproducer carriage rides) have 2 screws? No
5) Does the upper casting have lugs for Class M pulley wheels? No
6) Which secures the endgate; a ball catch, or a locking lug? No end gate.
7) Does carriage hold the reproducer with nickeled clips, or a single screw at 2:00 position? Single screw; however, the original carriage was replaced at some point with a horizontal carriage to use a Model O reproducer.
8) Motor number (found stamped on front of motor frame): 39117 (Wondering if this might be an earlier motor swapped in at some point.)
9) Are the motor gears solid or spoked? Solid
10) If there’s a plate below the mandrel, what exactly does it say? None
11) Which does the cabinet have; a drawer, a banner decal, or an “Edison” script decal? Script decal.
12) Are there any dated material with it? Invoices? Packing slips? Writing inside the lid? Not that I have found, other than 9-15-08 on the label inside the lid concerning how to change speeds, etc. (It is a Model D.)