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gramophone-georg wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:28 pm

gramophone78 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:26 pm Here is another....1900 Canadian Berliner.JPG

AAAAAHHHH! I have been looking for any copy of that forever! Didn't realize it was first done on Berliner- very cool!

This issue of "Blue Bells Of Scotland" was first released in the US (August 31 1897). The original US cat number (3312) is effaced under the later added (1900) Canadian patent information. A new Canadian cat number (355) was added on the right. Also, four HMV logos were added into the sound grooves when re-pressed in Canada.

Here's the original US issue. (This was among the first group of Berliners I purchased in 1973.)

George P.

phonogfp wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:39 pm Here's the original US issue. (This was among the first group of Berliners I purchased in 1973.)

George P.
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Very cool George. Would be great to have them displayed side by side.....at my place

gramophone78 wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:43 pm Very cool George. Would be great to have them displayed side by side.....at my place

Although under a different title "Imperial Record"....technically still a Berliner record.
To my knowledge one of two 7" examples known. Berliner also issued this "lmperial" label on a 10" as well. I only know of one in the hands of our Canadian national archive. They also have the other 7" example which is a French title.

If a forum member has one of either size of this Imperial label...please let me know.

Here are my Berliner Discs, plus 1 etched Zono.

Cheers, Bob S.

Here is my 7-inch American Talking Machine Record Disk circ 1899. One mentioned earlier in this thread. What makes this even more interesting is its black shellac. The only references to this label states that they were pressed in red / brown shellac.

Here is the only Berliner record I own, I bought it about 10 years ago. It plays and sounds great.

Hi

Can we assume that this 7" black ATM disk turned up outside of the US? It was not 'copied' from a (known) Berliner disc as this title was not officially made by/for Berliner or National Gramophone. It is probably derived from a Columbia brown wax cylinder (also by the prolific Quinn).

Late '1899' is the most likely year as that is the date of the US copyright for the sheet music.

A nice item to be sure.

Allen