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New videos: Classical/opera Diamond Disks, pink Lambert, etc

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:31 pm
by 52089
About 50 videos now. Newest ones include several classical and opera Diamond Disks (many "new old stock"), a pink Lambert, some rare Evelyn Scotney sides, and more. I will have more to post very soon!

http://www.youtube.com/user/thesegoto80 ... sults_main

Hope you enjoy!

Kevin

Re: New videos: Classical/opera Diamond Disks, pink Lambert,

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:02 am
by Valecnik
52089 wrote:About 50 videos now. Newest ones include several classical and opera Diamond Disks (many "new old stock"), a pink Lambert, some rare Evelyn Scotney sides, and more. I will have more to post very soon!

http://www.youtube.com/user/thesegoto80 ... sults_main

Hope you enjoy!

Kevin
I DID enjoy. You uploaded several excellent selections there and the recording quality is very high.

Re: New videos: Classical/opera Diamond Disks, pink Lambert,

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:02 pm
by ImperialGuardsman
Great videos and quality indeed. The ionly improvement that I could think of is to have a microphone that you can plug into the camera so you can record less surface noise and still see the record spin. Either way, ver good videos!

Re: New videos: Classical/opera Diamond Disks, pink Lambert,

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:42 pm
by 52089
ImperialGuardsman wrote:Great videos and quality indeed. The ionly improvement that I could think of is to have a microphone that you can plug into the camera so you can record less surface noise and still see the record spin. Either way, ver good videos!
Thanks, I've experimented with a standalone directional microphone, but with little success. There's no way to really capture the "force" of acoustic playback using a microphone, unfortunately, so improving the sound mostly means making it louder.

One thing I've found that does make a difference is the reproducer, and more specifically the diaphragm. I have several different types of reproducers and a few different diaphragms, both vintage and modern. Watch the video of "Oh Patria Mia" for an example of a modern diaphragm that gives good results. I have just changed the stylus on that reproducer and also gotten a C-19, which has a larger horn than the C-150 in the videos. The combination is extraordinarily loud and clear. I will make a few videos with that combination so you can see for yourself.

Thanks for watching!

Re: New videos: Classical/opera Diamond Disks, pink Lambert,

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:49 pm
by Wolfe
52089 wrote:
ImperialGuardsman wrote:Great videos and quality indeed. The ionly improvement that I could think of is to have a microphone that you can plug into the camera so you can record less surface noise and still see the record spin. Either way, ver good videos!
Thanks, I've experimented with a standalone directional microphone, but with little success. There's no way to really capture the "force" of acoustic playback using a microphone, unfortunately, so improving the sound mostly means making it louder.

One thing I've found that does make a difference is the reproducer, and more specifically the diaphragm. I have several different types of reproducers and a few different diaphragms, both vintage and modern. Watch the video of "Oh Patria Mia" for an example of a modern diaphragm that gives good results. I have just changed the stylus on that reproducer and also gotten a C-19, which has a larger horn than the C-150 in the videos. The combination is extraordinarily loud and clear. I will make a few videos with that combination so you can see for yourself.

Thanks for watching!
No microphone is going to respond optimally by making anything 'louder ' so that you bash the capsule. What you should do is experiment with placement, if nothing else.

Re: New videos: Classical/opera Diamond Disks, pink Lambert,

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:19 am
by ImperialGuardsman
52089 wrote:
ImperialGuardsman wrote:Great videos and quality indeed. The ionly improvement that I could think of is to have a microphone that you can plug into the camera so you can record less surface noise and still see the record spin. Either way, ver good videos!
Thanks, I've experimented with a standalone directional microphone, but with little success. There's no way to really capture the "force" of acoustic playback using a microphone, unfortunately, so improving the sound mostly means making it louder.

One thing I've found that does make a difference is the reproducer, and more specifically the diaphragm. I have several different types of reproducers and a few different diaphragms, both vintage and modern. Watch the video of "Oh Patria Mia" for an example of a modern diaphragm that gives good results. I have just changed the stylus on that reproducer and also gotten a C-19, which has a larger horn than the C-150 in the videos. The combination is extraordinarily loud and clear. I will make a few videos with that combination so you can see for yourself.

Thanks for watching!
My main thought was to reduce the surface noise that is present near the reproducer but doesn't get transfered through the horn. Anyhoo, what diaphragm are you using in that particular video. It sounds very nice. I use the Larry H. True Tone myself and it does a very good job on my C-250. I look forward to videos with your C-19!

Re: New videos: Classical/opera Diamond Disks, pink Lambert,

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:07 am
by 52089
Wolfe wrote:
52089 wrote:
ImperialGuardsman wrote:Great videos and quality indeed. The ionly improvement that I could think of is to have a microphone that you can plug into the camera so you can record less surface noise and still see the record spin. Either way, ver good videos!
Thanks, I've experimented with a standalone directional microphone, but with little success. There's no way to really capture the "force" of acoustic playback using a microphone, unfortunately, so improving the sound mostly means making it louder.

One thing I've found that does make a difference is the reproducer, and more specifically the diaphragm. I have several different types of reproducers and a few different diaphragms, both vintage and modern. Watch the video of "Oh Patria Mia" for an example of a modern diaphragm that gives good results. I have just changed the stylus on that reproducer and also gotten a C-19, which has a larger horn than the C-150 in the videos. The combination is extraordinarily loud and clear. I will make a few videos with that combination so you can see for yourself.

Thanks for watching!
No microphone is going to respond optimally by making anything 'louder ' so that you bash the capsule. What you should do is experiment with placement, if nothing else.
What I meant to say is that any perceived improvement in sound is a result of increasing the volume of the sound, either through placement changes (which I have tried, but thanks for the suggestion), or post-production editing. My point was that neither of these will ever really capture the experience of acoustic sound reproduction in a way that can be reproduced on electronic equipment, so I don't spend a lot of time on these factors. I would rather be able to post more videos as they are than spend hours trying to get at best a 5% improvement on each one.

I know that some people have had very good luck with a separate, hi quality digital sound recorder, so that's probably my next step.

Re: New videos: Classical/opera Diamond Disks, pink Lambert,

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:18 am
by 52089
ImperialGuardsman wrote: My main thought was to reduce the surface noise that is present near the reproducer but doesn't get transfered through the horn. Anyhoo, what diaphragm are you using in that particular video. It sounds very nice. I use the Larry H. True Tone myself and it does a very good job on my C-250. I look forward to videos with your C-19!
I have a combination of reproducers and diaphragms, including Larry's, which I find gives similar results to an original. The diaphragm on the Rappold video has a much "hotter" high end along with increased volume overall, which is great for later discs that are in great condition. Unfortunately is does amplify surface noise and scratches as well. As far as I know it is not currently available.

I may do a reproducer comparison video someday :)

Thanks for the feedback.