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Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:20 pm
by dilhermandodidi
My gramophone plays 78 in Fast. Can be problem with spring?
Thanks
Photos
Videos
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Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:12 pm
by soundgen
It's the governor !
Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:10 pm
by CarlosV
Yes, it is the governor - I had the same problem with a pot metal governor (see my posting on the other thread - not even Caruso could hold a steady note with that. Get a brass HMV 102 governor and your problems will go away.
Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:46 pm
by barnettrp21122
After looking at your video, I really think you should just look at adjusting the speed control plate under the turntable. Here is a picture that might help in adjusting your speed control:
I think if you can slide the plate slightly to the right after loosening the screws A and B you'll find there's room for adjustment until you end up with the speed indicator centered on 78.
Bob
Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:52 pm
by Ian
soundgen wrote:It's the governor !
Is it? Looking at the video, the governor seems to move quite freely when the lever is moved.
Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:14 pm
by dilhermandodidi
barnettrp21122 wrote:After looking at your video, I really think you should just look at adjusting the speed control plate under the turntable. Here is a picture that might help in adjusting your speed control:
HMV 102 speed control detail.jpg
I think if you can slide the plate slightly to the right after loosening the screws A and B you'll find there's room for adjustment until you end up with the speed indicator centered on 78.
Bob
See working in "fast". Then I show a video with the proposed amendments. Thank you!
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Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:02 pm
by JerryVan
Don't you have the speed control set on "fast"? What happens if you move the control to the something in between?
Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:42 pm
by dilhermandodidi
JerryVan wrote:Don't you have the speed control set on "fast"? What happens if you move the control to the something in between?
Hi, If I move to the mid (78s), plays a bit slow...
Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:40 pm
by soundgen
sorry but it is still the governor ! been there done that ! take the governor out , remove the spindle , either file inside the pot metal governor to remove sticking points ( they are there )or get some valve grinding paste and place on the spindle and work the spindle in and out of the pot metal part 50 to 100 times , remove all grinding paste ( ear buddies and lots of oil ) and reassemble and it will work perfectly !
Re: Help with springs - Videos and photos
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:30 pm
by dilhermandodidi
soundgen wrote:sorry but it is still the governor ! been there done that ! take the governor out , remove the spindle , either file inside the pot metal governor to remove sticking points ( they are there )or get some valve grinding paste and place on the spindle and work the spindle in and out of the pot metal part 50 to 100 times , remove all grinding paste ( ear buddies and lots of oil ) and reassemble and it will work perfectly !
I've tried to take it from there but I can't get out!

how can I get the que pillars support it, Appear to be bolted! What can I do to pull out? Can you explain the picture I sent?

Thank you very much!
