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Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:52 am
by saxymojo
Saw this Concert on an auction site in South Australia today, looks nice, Sold with 20 cylinders.
Is there many of these around? this is the first Concert model that I have seen.
Marcel
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:53 am
by Le0
that's a nice machine... there aren't that many around.
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:36 pm
by soundgen
very nice item what did it go for ?
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:26 am
by saxymojo
It sold for $20K + 16% buyers premium
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:03 pm
by Chuck
From what I've seen of Class M machines,
that is a very reasonable price.
He could turn right around and sell it for
$30K.
Chuck
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:38 am
by saxymojo
Got the auction house to send me some more pics.
I noticed that the corner design on the top deck is not right, maybe it has been re painted or replaced from a SM.
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:53 am
by Andersun
Looks like a Class M was converted to a Class M Concert at some later time. You can see a hole was drilled through the mandrel support column and a pulley shaft was secured with a screw which held the small belt twist pulleys. I may be wrong but I don't believe that configuration is original. It's obvious the pin-stripe doesn't match. Also, the motor cover plate looks reproduction.
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:24 am
by phonogfp
Steve's right again! Since the North American Phonograph Company went into receivership in 1894, and the Concert wasn't introduced until 1899, it's clear that this machine was put together later on.
George P.
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:32 am
by saxymojo
Hi Steve
The pulley may be correct, I have seen the same set up on a class M on Youtube, It sure is an interesting machine though. I would like to know it's history. What I do know, it was part of a huge collection owned by Dr Garry Scroop, the auctioneer told me, Garry owned the machine since 1960, he brought it to Australia from the UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF7sV4YXdcg
Regards Marcel
Re: Edison Bell Class M Concert
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:40 am
by Andersun
phonogfp wrote:Steve's right again! Since the North American Phonograph Company went into receivership in 1894, and the Concert wasn't introduced until 1899, it's clear that this machine was put together later on.
George P.
George,
From the Class M and Class E Concerts you have seen, were the belt twist pulleys supported on both ends by part of the upper bed-plate casting like the early Class M upper works? Or did Edison supply later style upper bed-plates with the configuration shown by this Class M Concert and the Class M in the U-Tube video that Marcel just pointed out?
Very interesting Marcel....