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Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:16 pm
by jimmantwo
Actually - next to one :D
Data plate is in bad shape - I know it is a XVI but can't make out serial number.

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:40 pm
by estott
Good find - the arm and soundbox alone are a great score.

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:58 pm
by brianu
Nice, clean it up, it'll surely look like a thousand bucks.

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:40 pm
by gramophone78
What a fantastic find. I believe this is the extremely rare "convertible" Victrola 16. According to the LFJ book, only a handful were made. Of course by custom order and for warmer climates.
Worth a great deal (as it is) I would think. Certainly well worth restoring.
Congrats to you.... :).
BTW.........LFJ stands for......."Look For the Joke" book..... :lol: :lol:.

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:23 pm
by jimmantwo
A little bit of cleaning.. fumed oak under the grime.

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:08 pm
by estott
OK- now THAT kicks it up several notches! Damm that missing door.

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:31 pm
by 52089
jimmantwo wrote:A little bit of cleaning.. fumed oak under the grime.
No, probably not fumed, but possibly "weathered". Fumed oak is a light finish. See this thread and scroll down for pictures of a pristine fumed oak finish.

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... k&start=20

I have a "naturally weathered" oak XI, meaning that it didn't start out that way, but it was left outside in the elements long enough that it has darkened significantly. Now if I could only "weather" the standard oak inside of the machine to match! :lol:

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:26 am
by jimmantwo
52089 wrote:
jimmantwo wrote:A little bit of cleaning.. fumed oak under the grime.
No, probably not fumed, but possibly "weathered". Fumed oak is a light finish. See this thread and scroll down for pictures of a pristine fumed oak finish.

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... k&start=20

I have a "naturally weathered" oak XI, meaning that it didn't start out that way, but it was left outside in the elements long enough that it has darkened significantly. Now if I could only "weather" the standard oak inside of the machine to match! :lol:
Thanks for the info. The exterior roughly matches the tone of the interior (lid, etc.), however the color of the interior is grayish.

I assumed it was fumed oak as the definition of fumed oak is: 'Ammonia fuming is a traditional process for darkening and richening the colour of oak. In modern times, ammonia fuming is best known through the work of Gustav Stickley'.

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:33 am
by gramophone78
jimmantwo wrote:
52089 wrote:
jimmantwo wrote:A little bit of cleaning.. fumed oak under the grime.
No, probably not fumed, but possibly "weathered". Fumed oak is a light finish. See this thread and scroll down for pictures of a pristine fumed oak finish.

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... k&start=20

I have a "naturally weathered" oak XI, meaning that it didn't start out that way, but it was left outside in the elements long enough that it has darkened significantly. Now if I could only "weather" the standard oak inside of the machine to match! :lol:
Thanks for the info. The exterior roughly matches the tone of the interior (lid, etc.), however the color of the interior is grayish.

I assumed it was fumed oak as the definition of fumed oak is: 'Ammonia fuming is a traditional process for darkening and richening the colour of oak. In modern times, ammonia fuming is best known through the work of Gustav Stickley'.
Actually, I would say the finish is "Old English" or "EE" for the Victor code. You may want to look in your copy of LFD and you can see how different they are. Fumed oak was a process that brought out the rich grain of Oak that was quarter cut. Not to darken the over all finish. We have collected fumed oak pieces for years. It's our favorite wood finish..... ;).

Re: Found in a Dumpster

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:44 pm
by jimmantwo
After some more cleaning...