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What is this?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:05 am
by jimmantwo
Phonograph pulls out from front

Re: What is this?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:35 am
by schweg
It looks like one from the UK made to look like a sideboard or buffet. There is one w/ a mirror pictured in Fabrizio and Paul's pink book. I have one but w/ the crank on the side. It has a really ornate tone arm.

Re: What is this?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:11 am
by soundgen
can you post a picture of the inside pulled out and the motor ? This would help identification

Re: What is this?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:56 pm
by jimmantwo
soundgen wrote:can you post a picture of the inside pulled out and the motor ? This would help identification
Okeh! Couldn't resist

Re: What is this?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:05 pm
by soundgen
What about a picture of the soundbox face ?

Re: What is this?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:14 pm
by estott
Looks like a Misselbach arm - Heinemann imported tons of them from Switzerland to the US, and I suppose they made it to the UK as well.

Re: What is this?

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:29 am
by jimmantwo
Here are some better pictures. Nothing I can find to indicate its maker.

Re: What is this?

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:04 pm
by mikejk
The motor is very similar, if not the same as the motor in my Aeolian-Vocalion Graduola.

Re: What is this?

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:12 pm
by Phono48
Call me a cynic if you like, but I reckon that motor is not the original. Would any manufacturer have cut a crude hole in the horn to accomodate part of the motor, or bashed dents in it for the same purpose? That escutcheon looks most odd on the front, screwed as it is to the very thin bars of the grille, and at a crazy angle. I wouldn't mind betting there's a filled in winding hole at the side?

Re: What is this?

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:48 pm
by Phototone
Phono48 wrote:Call me a cynic if you like, but I reckon that motor is not the original. Would any manufacturer have cut a crude hole in the horn to accomodate part of the motor, or bashed dents in it for the same purpose? That escutcheon looks most odd on the front, screwed as it is to the very thin bars of the grille, and at a crazy angle. I wouldn't mind betting there's a filled in winding hole at the side?
It would appear the unit has to be pulled out to play, as how else would you put a record on, change the needle, and start the playing? Therefore, the idea of a crank-hole on the side does not make sense for this unit. The crank on the front is the only engineering solution possible.