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I recently a couple of weeks ago bought a silvertone off eBay. It has a garford manufacture incorporated motor inside as the it says flyer on the motor I'm guessing this machine dates from 1926-1927 but here is a pic of what the motor looks like i think this motor was made out of cast iron and it has 1 fiber gear.

Correct me if I am wrong, but while this is a Garford motor, they also made motors for Heineman. Garford was a Ohio based company and sold motors to Otto Heineman.

I think this motor can use compatible parts off a Heineman flyer motor.

Yes I do belive your right on that. It was heinamen motor corporation that built these motors and they are usually reall good motors but I can never understand why they went with the fiber gear in this type of motor uhh? Lol well anyway you are right I do belive so thanks man.

They also used fiber gears in their large motors. I suppose they were used to make motors
run quieter.

The only thing I did not like about fiber gears is they made them out of a cardboard material but I know how to make stronger ones. You trace from a piece of cardboard from the orignal fiber gear take the 2 pieces you traced and then use moxy to strengthen them together simple idea I've heard of from my buddy who also collects gramophones. Thank you once again

The fiber gears were like a cloth and glue composition according to Eric Reiss book "The Compleat Talking Machine", but like you said they could have used a cardboard material.

I know some Columbia's have fiber gears and I think Victor may have used them in their early bull gears.

My brother was working on making them for Heinemann in a hard neoprene type resin, but caught up with other things with his job and family. I think new ones would be great.

Yeah most of the double springs coulumbia motors in the grafanolas used the fiber gears but yeah I agree with you totally thanks.