Class M For Sale

[gemering]

I saw this Class M today on a popular auction site.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1890-Edison-Cla ... RTM1562569

The top works etc. look legit to me.
The case looks incorrect.
Shouldn't the "sewing drawer" be part of the main case and not the swarf box?
Is this a homemade case?
Also two holes in the front of the case.
Was there a rail for listening tubes attached at one time?
Thanks for the input.
Gene

[phonogfp]

Except for the two speaker clamps, this machine looks perfectly legitimate to me.

The cabinet is the second style used by North American, and carried over into the National Phonograph Co. years. Judging by the two notches at the front and two in the rear, I'd guess that this machine was indeed once equipped with a rail for listening tubes.

I don't collect European machines, but that Anglo-Italian horn is very cool, and I'd be pleased to have it. AICC was the first company to record Caruso, and the masters were later purchased by Pathé, who briefly re-issued the recordings.

By the way, this should be posted in the "eBay & Craigslist Alert" section.

George P.

[Valecnik]

Norman Bruderhofer offers those Anglo-Italian Caruso cylinders as reissues btw.

[gemering]

I did not list my questions in the "Ebay and CL Alert Section", because my intention was not to alert others to the auction, but simply to have questions about the "machine" answered.
Wrong premise?
Gene

[phonogfp]

I did not list my questions in the "Ebay and CL Alert Section", because my intention was not to alert others to the auction, but simply to have questions about the "machine" answered.
Wrong premise?
Gene

It makes sense to me, but I recently read somewhere on this forum (of course I can't find it now!) that anything referencing an item on eBay or Craigslist should be posted in that section. I suppose that makes sense too... Don't blame me - I'm just the messenger!

George P.

[LONG ISLAND]

Is this forum that rigid where posters are, in a sense, chastised for posting a reply in the wrong section? This is a prime example why us " new-comers" only read this forum but do not contribute and or seek advice on this forum. Yet this "collecting community" wonders why the youth of today has no interest in the the innovations of the past. What young man or young woman of today would even venture in any discourse or discussion on this or any open forum when they are told " oh, no no you posted this in the wrong section ---please follow the rules. And while you are at it stay the hell off my grass!"
Who cares where it was posted except for the old "dusty phonograph collectors"? Gerard

[gramophone78]

I did not list my questions in the "Ebay and CL Alert Section", because my intention was not to alert others to the auction, but simply to have questions about the "machine" answered.
Wrong premise?
Gene

Gene, I don't wish to sound crass, but regardless where you post this......you are alerting everyone (member or not) of the auction . Getting back on topic.....I'm with George on that unique looking horn.
The horn must be very rare. Would a Class M have actually used this in Europe or was it intended for a different machine altogether??.

[Valecnik]

It seems to me that style of horn would have been a slightly later addition but who cares. In this case I wouldn't mind acquiring the machine with a technically incorrect horn, should that be the case.

[phonogfp]

Is this forum that rigid where posters are, in a sense, chastised for posting a reply in the wrong section? This is a prime example why us " new-comers" only read this forum but do not contribute and or seek advice on this forum. Yet this "collecting community" wonders why the youth of today has no interest in the the innovations of the past. What young man or young woman of today would even venture in any discourse or discussion on this or any open forum when they are told " oh, no no you posted this in the wrong section ---please follow the rules. And while you are at it stay the hell off my grass!"
Who cares where it was posted except for the old "dusty phonograph collectors"? Gerard

Gerard,

Gene and I are friends. It is not my place, nor was it my intention to "chastise" him. If my message or my tone seemed "rigid" or in any way pedagogical, I apologize to both you and Gene.

There are official moderators on this forum whose responsibility it is to monitor, and re-locate when necessary, posts that have been placed in inappropriate locations. The reason for this is to optimize the forum's function as a valuable resource for information. For example, should I need some advice on refinishing, it would be helpful to me to know that I will find it under "Tips, Tricks, and Tutorials" (which currently contains 749 topics). Otherwise, I might find myself searching under "Machines" (6333 topics), "British & European Machines" (236 topics), "Yankee Trader" (3011 topics), or "eBay & Craigslist Alerts" (245 topics). Here at the house, I have a three-drawer filing cabinet where I keep phonograph information in numerous files for the same reason - quicker and easier retrieval. There are few things I find more frustrating than being unable to find a desired piece of information or tool - - especially when I know I've seen it around here someplace...

As an old dusty phonograph collector, I must avoid such vexations that might plague my declining years, so I consider the work those moderators do as a real favor. However, I don't want to walk on anyone else's grass, so in the future I will leave to them the thankless task of reminding others to keep our community tools in their accustomed places.

Best wishes,
George P.

[Le0]

Is this forum that rigid where posters are, in a sense, chastised for posting a reply in the wrong section? This is a prime example why us " new-comers" only read this forum but do not contribute and or seek advice on this forum. Yet this "collecting community" wonders why the youth of today has no interest in the the innovations of the past. What young man or young woman of today would even venture in any discourse or discussion on this or any open forum when they are told " oh, no no you posted this in the wrong section ---please follow the rules. And while you are at it stay the hell off my grass!"
Who cares where it was posted except for the old "dusty phonograph collectors"? Gerard

I'll turn 20 sunday and I enjoy phonographs and also this forum. if people folow the rules it will just be nice and organised so people will want to come on the forum.