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Need help with a Victor horn and elbow...

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 6:12 pm
by Jerry B.
I need help with a Victor horn and elbow. The elbow fits the horn nicely but the horn does not have enough of the stud to hold the horn safely. I don't want to permanently glue the elbow to the horn but wondered if there some type of adhesive that could be used and separated with a little heat when desired? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Jerry

Re: Need help with a Victor horn and elbow...

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 7:48 pm
by Phonofreak
Jerry,
I just ran into that problem myself. I have a Victor B & B horn that is missing the stud. The previous owner used a nut and bolt to hold it to the elbow. WRONG!! I went to the hardware store and got some split rivets. I brought the elbow to get the right size rivets. I drilled a hole into the horn and placed the rivet. Make sure the rivet head is facing down so it will lock into the horn. Once you have the correct position, press the split ends. That will hold the rivet in place.
Harvey Kravitz

Re: Need help with a Victor horn and elbow...

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 8:17 pm
by Jerry B.
Thanks Harvey but my horn has a stud. The elbow just doesn't quite catch it. Jerry

Re: Need help with a Victor horn and elbow...

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 8:38 pm
by alang
Jerry,

I had a similar problem with a Victor MG horn. I used QuikSteel epoxy putty to build up on the stud. You cut off a little bit of the stuff, kneed it to activate it, then form a small ball and stick it over the existing stud. It doesn't need to be pretty at first, just attach properly. Once it's hardened you can use a file to give it the proper shape. Once hardened it has a consistency similar to JB-Weld, but it's easier to handle for projects like this, because it is a putty. It's been holding that horn for two years now.

Good luck!
Andreas

Re: Need help with a Victor horn and elbow...

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 11:45 pm
by downsouth
Jerry, I had the same problem a few months ago. I had a horn where the whole post and stud were missing so I selected a nut when ground down perfectly round would fit nicely in the slot in the elbow. Then I chose a short flathead screw that worked with the nut and was the correct size for the hole in the horn. Once I had the nut ground to the correct size I put it on the horn with the screw. Once in place and tight, I used a dremmel to ground the head of the screw head and remaining threads and it looked just like a factory job. In your case you'll have to remove the damaged stud on the horn by grounding it down and tapping it out first. Hope this helps.

Wes

Re: Need help with a Victor horn and elbow...

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:24 pm
by Ripduf1
Hi Jerry, Take it to a local horn guy (or I can do it if you ship it to me). The horn end is simply not "true" and the horn area holding the rivet has a flat spot. I have corrected this by placing the horn over and appropriate size roller ball and working it. Not glue or epoxy or screws etc just back to how it should be.

Confirm your horn on another elbow, could be elbow #1 needs work and not the horn, but my experience says it is the horn. John