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				Help Identifying a Machine
				Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:01 pm
				by Mr Grumpy
				Hello fellow forumers.
I'm having trouble identifying the machine pictured below.  I'm not very familiar with European machines and am guessing that this is
what this is.  Unfortunately I can't provide better images as the machine is not mine but I may have the opportunity to buy it.
By the way,  I know we don't like to discuss value, but could anyone offer a ballpark of what something like this is worth?
Thanks in advance
			
		
				
			 
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				Re: Help Identifying a Machine
				Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:10 pm
				by soundgen
				Can you get some pictures of the motor ?
			 
			
					
				Re: Help Identifying a Machine
				Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:27 pm
				by Joe_DS
				I though it looked odd, then I noted the fact that the close up photo of the logo shows the cherubs inverted.
Here's the top image flipped horizontally, which I'd guess is correct, since I've never seen a rear-mount outside horn gramophone with the crank on the left side:
			
		
				
			 
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				Re: Help Identifying a Machine
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:04 am
				by US PHONO
				Could you also post a pic of the horn support. From what I see it looks like Miraphone / Paillard. The back bracket casting would have ivy/flowers on it?
			 
			
					
				Re: Help Identifying a Machine
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:38 am
				by Mr Grumpy
				Yes the back bracket has Ivy on it. Unfortunately I can't get a picture of the motor.
 
			
					
				Re: Help Identifying a Machine
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:55 am
				by Mr Grumpy
				Okay,  I cracked it open... 
 
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				Re: Help Identifying a Machine
				Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:26 pm
				by epigramophone
				The latest pictures confirm that the machine is a Paillard.
The motor bears the Paillard trademark, and Paillard machines of this period were marketed under the name "Maestrophone", which is the name shown on the soundbox.
			 
			
					
				Re: Help Identifying a Machine
				Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:51 am
				by Mr Grumpy
				Thanks for your help.  The information has been stored for future reference  
