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Hello!!

I hope you'll forgive me if this question is answered elsewhere. I apologize in advance if it has been.

Some Edison Gold Moulded box lids have the song information on them. As an example, the one I have in hand says "8606, Marching Thro' Georgia (Work), Tenor and Baritone, Harlan & Stanley".

My question is: are these types of lids only on Gold Moulded records printed towards the end of the Gold Moulded era? This particular record (8606) was originally released in 1904. Does this mean I have a reissued version of the recording?

Any help in clarifying this would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.

Best,
Dan

(Information from Koenigsberg's Edison Cylinder Records): From about 1901 until about 1908, Edison provided labels on their record slips that could be cut out and pasted to the box lids. From 1908 - 1912, they provided info on the lids themselves.

The older labels have "Genuine Edison Record" printed at the bottom: the later ones do not. If the label on your lid lacks that line, and shows no evidence of being cut out by hand, it is probably a later remake.

Bill

The early 1901-1904 Edison moulded (grey and red box) cylinder boxes had tickets that you cut the circle out to put in your record cabinet for the peg. They cut out the circle for 1903 mandrel GM boxes, those have a similar label to the 1905 Gold Moulded boxes, but have a cardboard spindle in the middle instead of cotton batting, and have a little circle in the middle with the record box information. From about 1905-1907, only the top was stamped with the catalog number. At the time when Amberols came out in 1908, then the smaller print was back with artist and title information, instead of just a stamped record number. Your record number seems to be a 1903-04 era record number. Some early Gold Moulded even have numbers the same as brown wax but are re-recorded.

Thank you!!