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I am in need of a Victor Rigid Arm elbow. I know one of these popped up here just before the Union show, but as things go, I found a machine I need one for after the fact. If anyone has one they would like to sell, please let me know.

Thanks, Wes

Wes, Sounds like you've got a parts machine. Let me know if you'd like to sell it. Sorry, but I don't have an elbow for you. I've seen several regular front mount elbows that were successfully modified for a rigid arm machine. Good luck, Jerry

Jerry, Its a complete machine minus the horn and elbow, but I think I have a horn that will work provided that an elbow can be found. I know its a long shot , but I have to try.

Wes

I think Valecnik had one for sale a couple of years ago. Not sure if he still does, but it might be worth a shot.

Bruce Johnson may have one. His e=mail is [email protected].

Does anybody know if any repros were made?

Wes

Did you check with neelan on ebay?

downsouth wrote:Does anybody know if any repros were made?

Wes

I don't think so Wes.

quote="Jerry B."]Wes, Sounds like you've got a parts machine. Let me know if you'd like to sell it. Sorry, but I don't have an elbow for you. I've seen several regular front mount elbows that were successfully modified for a rigid arm machine. Good luck, Jerry[/quote]

Jerry I've also seen front mount elbows modified for use on the rigid arm machines but the angle is not correct. The ones I've seen have the horn pointing almost straight ahead, very low to the machine. To be correct the horn should point at a 45 degree angle up. I think if you tried to bend one to the truly correct angle the brass would split or crack.

Wes,
I have been down that road before... The first Victor horn machine that I got was from a collector who didn't know what a rigid arm machine was. However, the elbow was broken right at the bend and made the machine useless.

I searched for 15 years for an elbow... finally I found one that Lynn Bilton had for $500. I thought many times of making an elbow out of a 90 degree one, but never could figure out a way to make that work. You can't bend them because they are two pressed pieces crimped together. The only way to do it would be to cut a "pie slice" out of the bend and then solder it back together, but it would be weak in the area that is stressed the most and solder might not hold.

I can tell you that if you find an original, it will be stamped "Patented" and the important difference is that it will have a brass collar crimped on the end that slides over the tube attached to the backmount, which keeps it from spreading apart... I have never seen a modified one with this feature.

Here's a picture of my E that illustrates some off the features Curt describes. They are also stamped "patented" as Curt says but that's not visible here.