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COLUMBIA US GRAND

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:00 pm
by ambrola
Can anyone show me what a Columbia US Grand is? I have a chance to get one, but I don't know what it is.

Re: COLUMBIA US GRAND

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:16 pm
by phonogfp
Amberola wrote:Can anyone show me what a Columbia US Grand is? I have a chance to get one, but I don't know what it is.
I'm afraid there's no such thing. :? There are several models of "Columbia Grand" Graphophones, although technically the "Columbia Grand" was the Type AG.

There was also a U-S Phonograph Company "Grand," but it had nothing to do with Columbia.

George P.

Re: COLUMBIA US GRAND

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:23 pm
by ambrola
phonogfp wrote:
Amberola wrote:Can anyone show me what a Columbia US Grand is? I have a chance to get one, but I don't know what it is.
I'm afraid there's no such thing. :? There are several models of "Columbia Grand" Graphophones, although technically the "Columbia Grand" was the Type AG.

There was also a U-S Phonograph Company "Grand," but it had nothing to do with Columbia.

George P.
I bet it is a US Grand. Is it worth chasing down?

Re: COLUMBIA US GRAND

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:24 pm
by Valecnik
Amberola wrote:
phonogfp wrote:
Amberola wrote:Can anyone show me what a Columbia US Grand is? I have a chance to get one, but I don't know what it is.
I'm afraid there's no such thing. :? There are several models of "Columbia Grand" Graphophones, although technically the "Columbia Grand" was the Type AG.

There was also a U-S Phonograph Company "Grand," but it had nothing to do with Columbia.

George P.
I bet it is a US Grand. Is it worth chasing down?
Yes, if it looks something like this, go for it!

2/4 minute US cylinder mechanism under the hood!

Re: COLUMBIA US GRAND

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:38 pm
by phonogfp
Just be aware that the majority of the U-S 2/4 reproducer change mechanisms have pot metal components that have generally not aged well. I know of another U-S "Grand" that is currently inoperable, and at the moment there's no avenue to fixing it. Years ago, a few sets of these components were reproduced in brass, and quickly sold out. I hope someone tackles these parts again - - there are many U-S machines out there that need them.

George P.

Re: COLUMBIA US GRAND

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:52 pm
by Valecnik
phonogfp wrote:Just be aware that the majority of the U-S 2/4 reproducer change mechanisms have pot metal components that have generally not aged well. I know of another U-S "Grand" that is currently inoperable, and at the moment there's no avenue to fixing it. Years ago, a few sets of these components were reproduced in brass, and quickly sold out. I hope someone tackles these parts again - - there are many U-S machines out there that need them.

George P.
Excellent point. The pot metal reproducer is very complex, essentially two reproducers, side by side under a pill shaped housing. Paul Baker rebuilt at least this one years ago but I don't think he's doing it now.

Re: COLUMBIA US GRAND

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:36 pm
by ambrola
phonogfp wrote:Just be aware that the majority of the U-S 2/4 reproducer change mechanisms have pot metal components that have generally not aged well. I know of another U-S "Grand" that is currently inoperable, and at the moment there's no avenue to fixing it. Years ago, a few sets of these components were reproduced in brass, and quickly sold out. I hope someone tackles these parts again - - there are many U-S machines out there that need them.

George P.
It is the big machine in the Valecnik post. . It wouldn't let me quote? Anyways, the reproducer is shot, so I will pass.