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same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:20 am
by fmblizz
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:59 am
by welshfield
He is only one of many, unfortunately. One guy, highly praised on this forum, is a bit more subtle, parting out machines gradually so it is not so apparent. I saw him buy up a load of perfectly good machines at a North East Ohio auction recently, outbidding actual collectors and paying well over market price because of all the money he could make selling off the parts. It seems to be a curse of this hobby.
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:31 pm
by BwanaJoe
welshfield wrote:He is only one of many, unfortunately. One guy, highly praised on this forum, is a bit more subtle, parting out machines gradually so it is not so apparent. I saw him buy up a load of perfectly good machines at a North East Ohio auction recently, outbidding actual collectors and paying well over market price because of all the money he could make selling off the parts. It seems to be a curse of this hobby.
And that would be? Personally I'd like to avoid those people. It is like parting out a restorable car in my book.
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:42 pm
by Phono-Phan
Not only does he "take the cake" but he will then take the candles and frosting off and sell them separately.
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:54 am
by fmblizz
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:15 am
by Dave
All I can say is the man has a right to make a living...if it happens to be parting out Victrolas and phonographs, I have no problems.
btw...for all those collectors who have been frantically looking for just the right part and the seller happens to have it...then you'll be glad he does what he does.
I do think he charges too much.
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:54 am
by Phonolair
His practices in my opinion are only driving up the price of complete numbers & parts matching original machines. In most cases the original survivor machines bring the best price.
Best Regards, Larry
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:32 pm
by Curt A
I am in agreement that parting out good, complete machines is sad. But you have to ask the question - when you need a rare part for your machine, where does it come from? Obviously, it came from a previously good machine or it wouldn't be available - there aren't any warehouses full of NOS rare parts. I would prefer that my parts came from machines that had been hacked up or butchered, but then that is its own sad story. If all the phonographs produced had been maintained in pristine working order, they wouldn't be worth anything. It's only because so many of them have been scrapped, parted out, made into trolling motors, liquor cabinets, etc. that they have become scarce and therefore valuable...
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:13 pm
by Mr Grumpy
So you're saying in order to increase the value of my collection, I should be destroying as many machines as possible?
hmmm.....
Re: same old tricks,,, parting out a perfectly good Victor
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:28 pm
by Curt A
Mr Grumpy wrote:So you're saying in order to increase the value of my collection, I should be destroying as many machines as possible?
hmmm.....
Yes, if you want to drive demand, then limit supply - just like the diamond industry...
Either that or hoard as many as you can out of the available supply, get new collectors interested then refuse to sell them anything... Wait, I think people have tried this before...
