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It's whats on the inside that counts

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:05 pm
by Phonolair
At first glance it looked like the typical neglected Home parts machine.
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After looking under the lid it gets better, very nice original upper works.
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Wait a minute, it's the elusive model C Home. It's looking better now.
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And wait for it, it's gets better, a Blackman reproducer. Now I have forgotten all about the neglected case.
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I haven't seen a weight on a Blackman reproducer like this before. But the spring still gives it plenty of downward force. I have limited knowledge about Blackman reproducers but my thoughts are the reproducer is earlier than the Home C so it's any ones guess how they ended up together. I'm happy and glad after all these years of collecting I haven't lost the curiosity to see what's under the lid.

Best Regards, Larry

Re: It's whats on the inside that counts

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:17 pm
by alang
Wow, that is a nice find. Congratulations! I hop you will share further progress of the cleanup with many pictures. :)

Andreas

Re: It's whats on the inside that counts

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:51 pm
by Stephen_Madara
Looks like someone did some additional modifications other then blackman

Re: It's whats on the inside that counts

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:55 pm
by rgordon939
What you have is a Blackman Automatic Reproducer. Looking from the top you see that it is missing the arm where the two screw holes are on the right side. Looking at it from the bottom that is an original weight and spring setup. Someone apparently took the weight off and ground off both sides until what you have was left. hard to understand why someone would do this because Blackman used this spring setup to increase contact pressure on the cylinder to increase volume. By grinding down the weight it's lighter and would decrease pressure on the cylinder. Here are some pictures of my Blackman. It is the only reproducer I use to play my brown wax cylinders.

Rich gordon

Re: It's whats on the inside that counts

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:00 pm
by Curt A
Maybe it's a NEW & IMPROVED Blackman... They may have discovered that all of that large weight was not needed with the spring mechanism. Somewhat similar to an Indestructible reproducer or a Columbia lyric...

Re: It's whats on the inside that counts

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:10 pm
by Phonolair
alang wrote:Wow, that is a nice find. Congratulations! I hop you will share further progress of the cleanup with many pictures. :)

Andreas
Will do, for now I'll find a nice Home B case for it and put a C reproducer in it.
Stephen_Madara wrote:Looks like someone did some additional modifications other then blackman
rgordon939 wrote:What you have is a Blackman Automatic Reproducer. Looking from the top you see that it is missing the arm where the two screw holes are on the right side. Looking at it from the bottom that is an original weight and spring setup. Someone apparently took the weight off and ground off both sides until what you have was left. hard to understand why someone would do this because Blackman used this spring setup to increase contact pressure on the cylinder to increase volume. By grinding down the weight it's lighter and would decrease pressure on the cylinder.

Rich gordon
Thanks for the information guys, for now I'll set the reproducer aside for display. The arm should be easy to replace and the weight will show up someday.
Curt A wrote:Maybe it's a NEW & IMPROVED Blackman... They may have discovered that all of that large weight was not needed with the spring mechanism. Somewhat similar to an Indestructible reproducer or a Columbia lyric...
That's a thought, maybe I should just replace the arm and leave it as is.

Best Regards, Larry