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STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:00 am
by Turruz
Hello everybody,..

yesterday i bought this machine for 75 euro.. (81 dollars).. i think it is a columbia AK graphophone but, in every image i can find in internet on the label of all models there is "Disc Graphophone" not "Columbia Disc Graphophone" on a long label like in my object.. why this??? the machine ovviusly is not complete... i have the elbow of horn (there isnt in the photo) but the horn, reproducer and horizontal arm are miss... the spring is good.. work... i have to change a gear and spring of governor... I HOPE 81 DOLLARS IS A GOOD PRICE FOR IT... but i cant understand the different label... someone can help me?? thank you for every information !!!

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Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:49 am
by US PHONO
Congratulations, it is a very desirable machine and seems in good order. 75 euro is a gift! In which country did you find it?

Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:17 am
by Turruz
US PHONO wrote:Congratulations, it is a very desirable machine and seems in good order. 75 euro is a gift! In which country did you find it?
In Italy.. in The North of italy, near Milan.. do You know something about this model? Thank u

Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:50 am
by US PHONO
My graphophones are all "Disc Graphophone", but I do find some examples with the Columbia in the logo

http://p2.la-img.com/654/32293/12940823_1_x.jpg

I cannot however find any info about the difference.

Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:06 pm
by Zwebie
I just sold a restored 1903 Columbia model “AK” Graphophone on Ebay.
It had a Greg Cline "The Disc Graphophone" decal on it.
Can't say that I have ever seen one with a decal like yours,
but it may have been available like that outside the U.S.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111618480506?ss ... 1555.l2649

Cheers, Bob S.

Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:36 pm
by Turruz
Zwebie wrote:I just sold a restored 1903 Columbia model “AK” Graphophone on Ebay.
It had a Greg Cline "The Disc Graphophone" decal on it.
Can't say that I have ever seen one with a decal like yours,
but it may have been available like that outside the U.S.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111618480506?ss ... 1555.l2649

Cheers, Bob S.
BEAUTIFUL !!!

Are the horizontal arm and support for horn, easy to find?

Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:14 pm
by US PHONO
Hi Turruz,

Did I say none.....

Is the Columbia Phonograph Company on the last scroll on your AK in white or black letters?

Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:26 pm
by Phonofreak
The banner labels that say either The Columbia Disk Graphophone and the Columbia Graphophone came out in 1907. For cylinder Graphophones, these decal were used until the end of cylinder era. I believe Columbia stopped making cylinder machines around 1910-12. For the disk machines, this late banner decal was used until 1908 when the profile decal was used. The profile decal looks like a horned disk graphophone. I'm guessing your AK is a late one from about 1907-8.
Harvey Kravitz

Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:17 pm
by Turruz
US PHONO wrote:Hi Turruz,

Did I say none.....

Is the Columbia Phonograph Company on the last scroll on your AK in white or black letters?
THAT LETTERS IN MY OBJECT ARE WHITE... LOOK..
http://imagegecko.net/upload2/11083675_ ... 4469_n.jpg

Re: STRANGE LABEL COLUMBIA AK ??

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:20 pm
by Turruz
Phonofreak wrote:The banner labels that say either The Columbia Disk Graphophone and the Columbia Graphophone came out in 1907. For cylinder Graphophones, these decal were used until the end of cylinder era. I believe Columbia stopped making cylinder machines around 1910-12. For the disk machines, this late banner decal was used until 1908 when the profile decal was used. The profile decal looks like a horned disk graphophone. I'm guessing your AK is a late one from about 1907-8.
Harvey Kravitz

in what time was produced the AK model? From ??? to 1908 ??