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Columbia AR Phonograph

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:39 pm
by Talkophone
Picked this up today. Thought it was a Columbia BD but this has the Three spring motor and as you can see is rear mount. No other holes are in the cabinet other than the ones for the back mount. I think it is an AR but there are experts who would know for sure.


Larry


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Re: Columbia AR Phonograph

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:44 pm
by outune
I believe you are right--that it is the BD-- The BJ and the BD shared the case-- If my brain is still firing on all 4 cylinders-- I believe the BJ had the two-spring motor and the BD the 3 spring-- Definitely not the AR-- AR and AY were the front mount versions..

Hope this helps--

Brad Abell

Re: Columbia AR Phonograph

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:38 pm
by victorIIvictor
Looks like the BD, as pictured on page 83 of Baumbach's Photograph Companion volume II. Brad's brain is firing on 4 cylinders (at least), even though this is a disc machine. :-)

Best wishes, Mark

Re: Columbia AR Phonograph

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:15 pm
by ChuckA
Looks like the cabinet started out life as a front mount AR, but was drilled for the back bracket BD. Notice the crank is on the wrong side for a back mount, but correct for a front mount. The motor board lock pin is on the front of the cabinet of the AR and on the rear for the BD.

When it was refinished they used the wrong decal, should be the later "Disc Graphophone" banner style.


Chuck

Re: Columbia AR Phonograph

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 12:03 am
by Lucius1958
ChuckA wrote:Looks like the cabinet started out life as a front mount AR, but was drilled for the back bracket BD. Notice the crank is on the wrong side for a back mount, but correct for a front mount. The motor board lock pin is on the front of the cabinet of the AR and on the rear for the BD.

When it was refinished they used the wrong decal, should be the later "Disc Graphophone" banner style.


Chuck
So perhaps this was an early factory conversion?

Bill

Re: Columbia AR Phonograph

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 1:14 pm
by JerryVan
ChuckA wrote:Looks like the cabinet started out life as a front mount AR, but was drilled for the back bracket BD. Notice the crank is on the wrong side for a back mount, but correct for a front mount. The motor board lock pin is on the front of the cabinet of the AR and on the rear for the BD.

When it was refinished they used the wrong decal, should be the later "Disc Graphophone" banner style.


Chuck
Chuck has the correct answer. I saw this machine at a Stanton auction about a year ago and looked at it extensively.