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Zonophone what model is this?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 8:06 am
by columbia1spring
I have this rear mount Zonophone and have some questions about it. I have tried searching but I am still
at a loss as to what I have. I read and seen pictures that the Zonophone Parlor was made into a rear mount later in production. I also see and read a lot about the Zonophone Concert. My Phonograph resembles a late Parlor and a Concert.
In the pictures you see that the bedplate has the area for making this a front mount machine. I read that the factory was converting front mounts to rear mounts, so I assume what I have is correct? It has the original 9" turntable. Thoughts or comments would be great.
Thank You
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 11:12 am
by phonogfp
Your machine is a Zonophone Concert. The front-mount version from ca. 1904 is shown in this thread:
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... ert#p47590
Around 1905, Zonophones were offered in rear-mount versions. Here's a catalog spread showing the Concert as a rear-mount, but equipped with a newer style motor than yours. This catalog dates from no earlier than 1907.
I would date your Concert to 1905-1906.
Check the underside of your cabinet to see if the original sticker is present. If so, the price will be marked (although often in faded red ink).
I hope this helps.
George P.
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:35 pm
by columbia1spring
The only decal I was able to find was this inside the cabinet. It also came with a Hawthorne & Sheble green flowered horn.
Your info did help, I can now say I have a Zonophone Concert, rear mount!
Thank You!
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I would date your Concert to 1905-1906.
George P.[/quote]
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:39 pm
by phonogfp
Not to pick nits, but that's not a decal.
Perhaps you'd like to show your entire machine in a photo or two?
George P.
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:49 pm
by columbia1spring
Perhaps you'd like to show your entire machine in a photo or two?
George P.[/quote]
More then happy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUl67uh ... e=youtu.be
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 4:20 pm
by phonogfp
Nice!
Your Concert is equipped with the same relatively late Hawthorne & Sheble horn as supplied with the H&S Star machines, and the Yankee Prince (U.S. Design Patent No.38,478; filed January 31, 1907). (APS members will be seeing more on the Yankee Prince in the June issue of
The Antique Phonograph, which will be in the mail within days!)
This horn, if original to the machine, would suggest a later date - - possibly 1907. But I'd surely be surprised if Zonophone was using the earlier motor (yours) as late as 1907.
George P.
Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 4:59 pm
by gramophone78
phonogfp wrote:Nice!
Your Concert is equipped with the same relatively late Hawthorne & Sheble horn as supplied with the H&S Star machines, and the Yankee Prince (U.S. Design Patent No.38,478; filed January 31, 1907). (APS members will be seeing more on the Yankee Prince in the June issue of
The Antique Phonograph, which will be in the mail within days!)
YankPrince2.jpg
This horn, if original to the machine, would suggest a later date - - possibly 1907. But I'd surely be surprised if Zonophone was using the earlier motor (yours) as late as 1907.
George P.
Nice looking machine. There is going to be another interesting Zonophone article in the upcoming June issue of The Antique Phonograph magazine...

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Re: Zonophone what model is this?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:26 pm
by columbia1spring
I really appreciate all the kind words....
If you look directly at the phonograph, you can see the word Zonophone where the decal was, definitely was one there at some point. I had another topic going about the decal and read on there web site about installation. I know my capabilities and doing that is something I'll leave for a pro who has done many in the past.
Thank You!!